Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

M2 · 09-09-2007, 05:32 PM

I'm thinking he doesn't.

He's terrifyingly outclassed by major league hitters. While I'm no huge fan of tossing a lot of starts at Elizardo Ramirez or Tom Shearn or Kirk Saarloos, they're at least viable disaster options. You can start them and have some hope you can get out of the game without surrendering double digits and without demolishing your bullpen along the way too.

Dumatrait needs to go away, at least for the rest of the season.

vaticanplum · 09-09-2007, 05:39 PM

No.

I would be truly shocked if they ran him out there again this season.

Ron Madden · 09-09-2007, 05:43 PM

Phil Dumatrait has failed miserably in my opinion.

Dumatrarait is just filler for a Minor League roster.

Red in Chicago · 09-09-2007, 05:47 PM

Dumatrait needs to help Ricky Stone hand drywall

lollipopcurve · 09-09-2007, 05:53 PM

I don't see much hope for him. Since he's never pitched out of the pen, and he doesn't seem to have any above-average pitch, there may not even be a backup plan for the guy. If the Reds have a bunch of young players they want to add to the 40-man, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a free agent this winter.

I wouldn't mind if they keep running him out there this month, though. Angling for draft position, you know.

pedro · 09-09-2007, 05:56 PM

He's the worst starting pitcher I've ever seen make more than 1 start.

He's Eric Milton plus Brian Reith.

His crapulance as a pitcher is expanding faster than the universe.

Falls City Beer · 09-09-2007, 05:57 PM

I think he is the sine qua non. The ne plus ultra. Non-pareil. Unassailable. Divine. Transcendental.

vaticanplum · 09-09-2007, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

I think he is the sine qua non. The ne plus ultra. Non-pareil. Unassailable. Divine. Transcendental.

Hott

Chip R · 09-09-2007, 06:04 PM

He's not gonna make it. Bye, Phil. Hope you have a nice career in AAA.

nate · 09-09-2007, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip R

He's not gonna make it. Bye, Phil. Hope you have a nice career in AAA.

Or with another NL Central team!

Rojo · 09-09-2007, 06:12 PM

All the best, Phil

mth123 · 09-09-2007, 06:18 PM

Say no to Phil, but who takes his place? Saarloos?

Gosling?

They were stretching Salmon out in AAA, maybe they should try to get 5 from him every 5th day.

LvJ · 09-09-2007, 06:20 PM

Reminds me of the kid a few years ago. Something Austin?

JaxRed · 09-09-2007, 06:25 PM

Well, he's wasting his time right now, and you can be fairly certain that he could be outrighted now, and no one will take claim him and he'll make it through Rule 5.

So, you should..... and then give him specific things to work on during Instructional League and Winter Ball.

BCubb2003 · 09-09-2007, 06:29 PM

I'm not calling anyone out here, just remembering how easy it is to throw these guys on the scrap heap when we're done with them and then start demanding the next bum ...

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showt...ight=dumatrait

09-09-2007, 05:32 PM	#1
M2 Posting in Dynarama Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 26,668	Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? I'm thinking he doesn't. He's terrifyingly outclassed by major league hitters. While I'm no huge fan of tossing a lot of starts at Elizardo Ramirez or Tom Shearn or Kirk Saarloos, they're at least viable disaster options. You can start them and have some hope you can get out of the game without surrendering double digits and without demolishing your bullpen along the way too. Dumatrait needs to go away, at least for the rest of the season. __________________ Baseball isn't a magic trick ... it doesn't get spoiled if you figure out how it works. - gonelong I'm witchcrafting everybody.

09-09-2007, 05:39 PM	#2
vaticanplum Has big taste Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 6,704	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? No. I would be truly shocked if they ran him out there again this season. __________________ There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.

09-09-2007, 05:43 PM	#3
Ron Madden Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,815	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? Phil Dumatrait has failed miserably in my opinion. Dumatrarait is just filler for a Minor League roster.

09-09-2007, 05:47 PM	#4
Red in Chicago Oy Vey! Join Date: May 2000 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,252	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? Dumatrait needs to help Ricky Stone hand drywall

09-09-2007, 05:53 PM	#5
lollipopcurve Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shelburne Falls, MA Posts: 9,484	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? I don't see much hope for him. Since he's never pitched out of the pen, and he doesn't seem to have any above-average pitch, there may not even be a backup plan for the guy. If the Reds have a bunch of young players they want to add to the 40-man, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a free agent this winter. I wouldn't mind if they keep running him out there this month, though. Angling for draft position, you know. __________________ "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

09-09-2007, 05:56 PM	#6
pedro Please come again Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: portland, oregon Posts: 14,716	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? He's the worst starting pitcher I've ever seen make more than 1 start. He's Eric Milton plus Brian Reith. His crapulance as a pitcher is expanding faster than the universe. __________________ Get your nunchucks and the keys to your dad's car. I know where we can get a gun

09-09-2007, 05:57 PM	#7
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? I think he is the sine qua non. The ne plus ultra. Non-pareil. Unassailable. Divine. Transcendental.

09-09-2007, 06:04 PM	#9
Chip R Rally Onion! Join Date: May 2000 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 33,225	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? He's not gonna make it. Bye, Phil. Hope you have a nice career in AAA. __________________ The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-...24872650873160

09-09-2007, 06:12 PM	#11
Rojo Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Bush Leagues Posts: 8,424	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? All the best, Phil __________________ The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. ~ Carlyle

09-09-2007, 06:18 PM	#12
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,690	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? Say no to Phil, but who takes his place? Saarloos? Gosling? They were stretching Salmon out in AAA, maybe they should try to get 5 from him every 5th day. __________________ "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

09-09-2007, 06:20 PM	#13
LvJ Time is the Revelator. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 7,276	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? Reminds me of the kid a few years ago. Something Austin? __________________ Hide your power alleys; Hide your wife

09-09-2007, 06:25 PM	#14
JaxRed Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 9,228	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? Well, he's wasting his time right now, and you can be fairly certain that he could be outrighted now, and no one will take claim him and he'll make it through Rule 5. So, you should..... and then give him specific things to work on during Instructional League and Winter Ball.

09-09-2007, 06:29 PM	#15
BCubb2003 Haunted by walks Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Syracuse Posts: 6,305	Re: Does Phil Dumatrait ever need to pitch for the Reds again? I'm not calling anyone out here, just remembering how easy it is to throw these guys on the scrap heap when we're done with them and then start demanding the next bum ... http://www.redszone.com/forums/showt...ight=dumatrait

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