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Old 09-18-2007, 10:53 AM   #1
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Does anyone know how many blown saves the Reds have this year?
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:18 AM   #2
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Does anyone know how many blown saves the Reds have this year?
The CHicago broadcasters said 27. Burton should be the closer. Weathers is meat.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:22 AM   #3
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If the bullpen has blown 27 saves opp's, this should be a playoff team. This is shameful. I'm not blaming anybody, WK is trying hard, but its not happening. :thumbdown
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:29 AM   #4
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Thanks ! Red Daddy
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:06 PM   #5
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What is average Blown per MLB?
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:37 PM   #6
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The CHicago broadcasters said 27. Burton should be the closer. Weathers is meat.
Burton has 3 BS in 44 appearances. Weathers has 6 in 65.

Let's not forget Burton appeared in a lot of games earlier in the year in mop up duty. Weathers will still the be the closer this year and should be. Our biggest problem this year wasn't Weathers, it was the 8th inning. Of those 27 BSs, I wonder how many of those were due to the setup guys.
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:49 PM   #7
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What is average Blown per MLB?
18 is MLB average/team.


Weathers 6 (65)
Burton 3 (44)
Majewski 3 (28)
Stanton 3 (65)
Coffey 3 (57)
Guardado 2 (11)
McBeth 2 (18)
Coutlangus 2 (62)
Saarloos 1 (33)
Gosling 1 (27)
Salmon 1 (23)

And someone else that I'm not going to look up.

Weathers is tied for 6 BS with 15 other guys in blown saves so he's basically your average closer.
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:51 PM   #8
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Burton has 3 BS in 44 appearances. Weathers has 6 in 65.

Let's not forget Burton appeared in a lot of games earlier in the year in mop up duty. Weathers will still the be the closer this year and should be. Our biggest problem this year wasn't Weathers, it was the 8th inning. Of those 27 BSs, I wonder how many of those were due to the setup guys.
How many save opportunities is what matters not appearances.
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:51 PM   #9
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How many save opportunities is what matters not appearances.
Ok, David is 30/36.
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:47 PM   #10
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Hoping this chart is readable, showing each team's Save Percentage...

Team SV%
St. Louis Cardinals 0.775
Arizona Diamondbacks 0.766
Los Angeles Dodgers 0.754
Milwaukee Brewers 0.738
Chicago Cubs 0.736
New York Mets 0.712
Atlanta Braves 0.673
San Diego Padres 0.672
Philadelphia Phillies 0.655
Pittsburgh Pirates 0.646
San Francisco Giants 0.636
Florida Marlins 0.621
Washington Nationals 0.612
Colorado Rockies 0.586
Houston Astros 0.582
Cincinnati Reds 0.534


Think this sheds light on why we'll be home in October.
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:21 PM   #11
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Hoping this chart is readable, showing each team's Save Percentage...

Team SV%
St. Louis Cardinals 0.775
Arizona Diamondbacks 0.766
Los Angeles Dodgers 0.754
Milwaukee Brewers 0.738
Chicago Cubs 0.736
New York Mets 0.712
Atlanta Braves 0.673
San Diego Padres 0.672
Philadelphia Phillies 0.655
Pittsburgh Pirates 0.646
San Francisco Giants 0.636
Florida Marlins 0.621
Washington Nationals 0.612
Colorado Rockies 0.586
Houston Astros 0.582
Cincinnati Reds 0.534


Think this sheds light on why we'll be home in October.
I think that's why we are talking about it. If we had a higher save percentage we would atleast be somewhat in contention right now.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:19 PM   #12
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Hoping this chart is readable, showing each team's Save Percentage...

Team SV%
St. Louis Cardinals 0.775
Arizona Diamondbacks 0.766
Los Angeles Dodgers 0.754
Milwaukee Brewers 0.738
Chicago Cubs 0.736
New York Mets 0.712
Atlanta Braves 0.673
San Diego Padres 0.672
Philadelphia Phillies 0.655
Pittsburgh Pirates 0.646
San Francisco Giants 0.636
Florida Marlins 0.621
Washington Nationals 0.612
Colorado Rockies 0.586
Houston Astros 0.582
Cincinnati Reds 0.534


Think this sheds light on why we'll be home in October.
Great stats. Add it all up, Runs scored, etc. if this bull pen had only been 50% better----which still wouldn't be all that great--- they'd be in 1st place and fighting the Cubs and Brewers off. Kinda' brings on nausea..
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Old 09-19-2007, 07:47 AM   #13
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Looks like the Reds are equal opportunity blowers. I'll bet most of their BS came before the All-Star game, though.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:20 AM   #14
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Geez, I knew our bullpen was bad, but that's ridiculous. When we turn the game over to the bullpen with a lead, we win just over half of the time. Put another way, the Reds have to win the first six innings or so to even have a 53% chance of winning the game. That is mind boggling.
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:06 PM   #15
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Looks like the Reds are equal opportunity blowers. I'll bet most of their BS came before the All-Star game, though.
It would be good to have a breakdown on when we had the blown saves. I also think most of them probably occurred in the first half.
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