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jmac · 10-14-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS

Enjoy it.

You've got six days left.

I love the confidence but lets not get too overconfident !

MasonBuzz3 · 10-14-2007, 10:54 PM

Mike Hart, hopefully the injury isnt too bad. No one player means more to his team and the numbers are there.

AccordinglyReds · 10-14-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WVRed

Brian Brohm=Tim Couch.

Both great heralded Kentucky QB's, but in their final year couldn't help their teams get to the grand stage. If I remember correctly, Couch finished like second or third in the Heisman race to Charles Woodson.

Yeah, I have to disagree with your reasoning. Brian Brohm has done more than his share to help Louisville win and win big. Unless you think he should play defense, it's out of his hands. So, yes, Brohm has done PLENTY to help his team.

As a QB, Brian Brohm > Andre' Woodson.

jmac · 10-18-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AccordinglyReds

Yeah, I have to disagree with your reasoning. Brian Brohm has done more than his share to help Louisville win and win big. Unless you think he should play defense, it's out of his hands. So, yes, Brohm has done PLENTY to help his team.

As a QB, Brian Brohm > Andre' Woodson.

Woodson's game management as well as leadership has impressed me greatly this season. The one problem I have seen however is he has been underthrowing alot of passes. Of course many of the ones he underthrows, Johnson or Burton come back and get so maybe they have a thing worked out between them

Anyway, here is how a couple of people(or scouts) view things.

1. Andre' Woodson, Kentucky, 6-5, 224 pounds, 4.78 (40-yard dash)

Entering the 2006 season, Woodson was fighting for a starting job. After leading the SEC in passing yards per game (270.4) and passing touchdowns (31), Woodson is now not only a front-runner for the Heisman, but among the handful of senior prospects competing to be the first overall pick in the NFL Draft.

Woodson has the size and arm scouts are looking for, and his ability to read defenses and accurately attack all levels of the field has drawn comparisons from South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier to Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer.

Brian Brohm (AP)
2. Brian Brohm, Louisville, 6-3, 227, 4.79

Considered one of the elite QB talents since earning Conference USA Freshman of the Year accolades in 2004. Has mind-boggling production in this system, throwing for 41 touchdowns against only 12 interceptions as an underclassman.

Scouts understandably love his production and acknowledge his accuracy, understanding of defenses and leadership. However, some question whether his ability is inflated by the Louisville offense.

Also according to NFLDraftscouts.com

1: Andre' Woodson
2: Matt Ryan
3: Brian Brohm

Mel Kiper has:
1: Matt Ryan
2: Brian Brohm
3: Andre' Woodson

Now I am not a Uof L fan by no means but if I had the #1 pick and selecting a QB, I dont know who I would take "right now".
Brohm is listed at 6-3 but he seems alot shorter when watching him on field.
Ryan, I would like to see what he does the rest of the year.
Woodson is leading and managing well although I still dont think he is "throwing" the ball as well as last year.

All these are only people's opinions as yours also but that is what makes debating fun.

WMR · 10-18-2007, 03:31 PM

I love Woodson, but comparing him to Palmer seems like a reach to me.

WMR · 10-27-2007, 09:07 PM

Okay so who's the front-runner now? The Dixon kid from Oregon? Ryan from BC?

Those two seem like they'd be the front-runners at this point...

MWM · 10-27-2007, 09:12 PM

I don't think there's any doubt that it's Dennis Dixon. He's a fantstic player.

Personally, I don't think Tebow should even be in the conversation. He's a good player and all, but he's much had a lot of hype to help him out. He's a year away from serious Heisman contention, IMO.

WMR · 10-27-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS

Andre' Woodson.

I wonder if that QB from Oregon could be a darkhorse candidate? That kid is money and he is in the perfect offense to showcase his abilities.

Not that I like to toot my own horn or anything.

jmac · 10-27-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS

Not that I like to toot my own horn or anything.

Okay I will do it for ya, Toot Toot !!

WMR · 10-27-2007, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rocko

Okay I will do it for ya, Toot Toot !!

Danny Serafini · 10-28-2007, 02:03 AM

At this point I'd have to guess Dixon. Stick the fork in Tebow, he's done after today. None of the other contenders did a whole lot this week, so Dixon moves to the head of the class, if he wasn't already there.

OnBaseMachine · 11-03-2007, 09:53 PM

Dixon has helped his Heisman chances tonight by throwing for 189 yards, 4 touchdowns and also rushing for 57 yards in leading his team to a 35-16 lead over undefeated ASU team late in the 4th quarter.

traderumor · 11-04-2007, 07:04 AM

I do not think the award should be given this year. The season is so devoid of superstars, the media cannot even find someone to hype. Just one of those years, but there really is no Wow factor players this year. That a QB from Kentucky is even in the conversation is evidence enough

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NorrisHopper30 · 11-04-2007, 10:45 AM

Darren McFadden 323 rushing yards against a stingy USC defense?

Hand the trophy over now..

OnBaseMachine · 11-04-2007, 11:12 AM

Arkansas has lost three games and will most likely lose one more, maybe two more. I don't think the Heisman trophy should go to a player on a team that loses four+ games.

Dixon threw for 4 TD's and against a very stingy Arizona State defense.

View Poll Results: Heisman trophy options
Andre Woodson(QB-Kentucky)	19	32.76%
Darren McFadden(RB-Arkansas)	16	27.59%
Steve Slaton(RB-WVU)	2	3.45%
Tim Tebow(QB-Florida)	2	3.45%
Colt Brennan(QB-Hawaii)	5	8.62%
John David Booty(QB-USC)	1	1.72%
DeSean Jackson(WR-Cal)	3	5.17%
Other Option	10	17.24%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

10-14-2007, 10:54 PM	#17
MasonBuzz3 Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 863	Re: Who will win the Heisman Mike Hart, hopefully the injury isnt too bad. No one player means more to his team and the numbers are there.

10-27-2007, 09:12 PM	#22
MWM Pre-tty, pre-tty good!! Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,171	Re: Who will win the Heisman I don't think there's any doubt that it's Dennis Dixon. He's a fantstic player. Personally, I don't think Tebow should even be in the conversation. He's a good player and all, but he's much had a lot of hype to help him out. He's a year away from serious Heisman contention, IMO. __________________ Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David

10-28-2007, 02:03 AM	#26
Danny Serafini 15 game winner Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sultanes de Monterrey Posts: 4,172	Re: Who will win the Heisman At this point I'd have to guess Dixon. Stick the fork in Tebow, he's done after today. None of the other contenders did a whole lot this week, so Dixon moves to the head of the class, if he wasn't already there.

11-03-2007, 09:53 PM	#27
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,655	Re: Who will win the Heisman Dixon has helped his Heisman chances tonight by throwing for 189 yards, 4 touchdowns and also rushing for 57 yards in leading his team to a 35-16 lead over undefeated ASU team late in the 4th quarter.

11-04-2007, 07:04 AM	#28
traderumor Unsolicited Opinions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right Down Broadway Posts: 17,646	Re: Who will win the Heisman I do not think the award should be given this year. The season is so devoid of superstars, the media cannot even find someone to hype. Just one of those years, but there really is no Wow factor players this year. That a QB from Kentucky is even in the conversation is evidence enough :

11-04-2007, 10:45 AM	#29
NorrisHopper30 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Milford, Clifton Posts: 1,585	Re: Who will win the Heisman Darren McFadden 323 rushing yards against a stingy USC defense? Hand the trophy over now.. __________________ Follow me on twitter @EricLilly7 Check out my Reds blog! Hit me up with any advice on it at anytime, it's always appreciated. http://redscheatsheet.blogspot.com/

11-04-2007, 11:12 AM	#30
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,655	Re: Who will win the Heisman Arkansas has lost three games and will most likely lose one more, maybe two more. I don't think the Heisman trophy should go to a player on a team that loses four+ games. Dixon threw for 4 TD's and against a very stingy Arizona State defense.

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