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Benihana · 11-11-2007, 11:52 AM

According to www.mlbtraderumors.com, Josh Hamilton is one of a very small number of players that would be high on the Twinkies wish list in a deal for Johan Santana!

What would the other parts have to be? Because the Twins are one of the only teams in baseball that is not hot after pitching, I really think they would be a great matchup for the Reds. They are also supposedly hot after Scott Hatteberg, who would fill their DH role. Could a deal of Hamilton, Hatteberg, and any pitcher not named Bailey or Cueto be enough for Santana? Probably not, but I bet it could fetch Matt Garza seeing as who they are players the Twins highly covet. Very interesting, stay tuned...

edabbs44 · 11-11-2007, 11:56 AM

The site says "random speculation". If that speculation is correct, I would start with Hamilton/Garza discussions and go from there. I think Hamilton/Santana would take a whole lot more than just Hamilton.

RedsManRick · 11-11-2007, 11:57 AM

From mlbtraderumors.com:

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Random speculation on players the Twins might covet for Santana: Josh Hamilton, Chris Young of Arizona, Jacoby Ellsbury, Delmon Young, Carlos Gomez, or Garrett Atkins.

WMR · 11-11-2007, 12:00 PM

Interesting dichotomy... "mlbtraderumors.com" and "random speculation."

NJReds · 11-11-2007, 12:00 PM

The only way that happens, IMO, is in a 3-way deal. I can't see the Reds dealing for Santana, or signing him long term.

MWM · 11-11-2007, 12:05 PM

The twins are lefty heavy already. My guess if if they're going for a power bat, it will need to be a righty.

blumj · 11-11-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MWM

The twins are lefty heavy already. My guess if if they're going for a power bat, it will need to be a righty.

The Twins have so little in terms of actual major league caliber hitters, never mind power hitters, that I doubt they're that picky about handedness. I would think their starting offense, as it consists right now, would be: Mauer(L), Morneau(L), Kubel(L), Cuddyer(R), Bartlett(R), Casilla(S), and 3 blanks. They do tend to give Mauer and Morneau turns at DH as rest, so maybe they'd prefer a backup catcher or 1st baseman who can hit to a real full-time DH, but they really do need 3 more real hitters to play 3rd, CF, and other. And if they could upgrade either corner outfield spot, I think they'd do that, too. Which is a really long way of saying, almost anyone who can hit at all could be an upgrade for them somewhere.

Strikes Out Looking · 11-11-2007, 01:21 PM

For what it's worth, I'd trade Hamilton for Santana.

Joseph · 11-11-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Strikes Out Looking

For what it's worth, I'd trade Hamilton for Santana.

Question is, what else do they want with Hammy.

reds44 · 11-11-2007, 02:00 PM

Random speculation on players the Twins might covet for Santana: Josh Hamilton, Chris Young of Arizona, Jacoby Ellsbury, Delmon Young, Carlos Gomez, or Garrett Atkins.

Key words.

buckeyenut · 11-11-2007, 02:06 PM

Actually, I think Santana might be easier to get than Garza. And I am not so sure that something like Hamilton, Hatteberg, Maloney and Stubbs might not get us in the ballpark assuming MIN wants bats back rather than pitching in general because they feel they have the high end pitching prospects who need playing time to replace Santana with.

And if I am the Reds, I pull the trigger on that deal without talking extension and talk longterm deal with him when he gets here or deal him at the deadline. We need pitching more than MIN so a flip there might be good for both of us. It would be far easier to give up a Phillip Hughes if you were getting a Santana, but MIN doesn't need Hughes, they need bats.

PuffyPig · 11-11-2007, 02:07 PM

Gazra would be a better fit for us than 1 year of Santana.

RANDY IN INDY · 11-11-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Gazra would be a better fit for us than 1 year of Santana.

Totally agree.

Caveat Emperor · 11-11-2007, 02:43 PM

For all any of us know, Random Speculation could mean someone is reading the ideas thrown around here.

LoganBuck · 11-11-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Gazra would be a better fit for us than 1 year of Santana.

Griffey comes off the books next year. The Reds could pony up if they are serious about winning.

11-11-2007, 11:52 AM	#1
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,417	Twins targeting Hamilton? According to www.mlbtraderumors.com, Josh Hamilton is one of a very small number of players that would be high on the Twinkies wish list in a deal for Johan Santana! What would the other parts have to be? Because the Twins are one of the only teams in baseball that is not hot after pitching, I really think they would be a great matchup for the Reds. They are also supposedly hot after Scott Hatteberg, who would fill their DH role. Could a deal of Hamilton, Hatteberg, and any pitcher not named Bailey or Cueto be enough for Santana? Probably not, but I bet it could fetch Matt Garza seeing as who they are players the Twins highly covet. Very interesting, stay tuned... __________________ Go BLUE!!!

11-11-2007, 11:56 AM	#2
edabbs44 Box of Frogs Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 15,816	Re: Twins targeting Hamilton? The site says "random speculation". If that speculation is correct, I would start with Hamilton/Garza discussions and go from there. I think Hamilton/Santana would take a whole lot more than just Hamilton.

11-11-2007, 12:00 PM	#5
NJReds Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 5,408	Re: Twins targeting Hamilton? The only way that happens, IMO, is in a 3-way deal. I can't see the Reds dealing for Santana, or signing him long term. __________________ "The players make the manager, it's never the other way." - Sparky Anderson

11-11-2007, 12:05 PM	#6
MWM Pre-tty, pre-tty good!! Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,171	Re: Twins targeting Hamilton? The twins are lefty heavy already. My guess if if they're going for a power bat, it will need to be a righty. __________________ Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David

11-11-2007, 01:21 PM	#8
Strikes Out Looking Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,266	Re: Twins targeting Hamilton? For what it's worth, I'd trade Hamilton for Santana.

11-11-2007, 02:00 PM	#10
reds44 #TheReturn Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 23,660	Re: Twins targeting Hamilton? Random speculation on players the Twins might covet for Santana: Josh Hamilton, Chris Young of Arizona, Jacoby Ellsbury, Delmon Young, Carlos Gomez, or Garrett Atkins. Key words.

11-11-2007, 02:06 PM	#11
buckeyenut Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,721	Re: Twins targeting Hamilton? Actually, I think Santana might be easier to get than Garza. And I am not so sure that something like Hamilton, Hatteberg, Maloney and Stubbs might not get us in the ballpark assuming MIN wants bats back rather than pitching in general because they feel they have the high end pitching prospects who need playing time to replace Santana with. And if I am the Reds, I pull the trigger on that deal without talking extension and talk longterm deal with him when he gets here or deal him at the deadline. We need pitching more than MIN so a flip there might be good for both of us. It would be far easier to give up a Phillip Hughes if you were getting a Santana, but MIN doesn't need Hughes, they need bats.

11-11-2007, 02:07 PM	#12
PuffyPig Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,711	Re: Twins targeting Hamilton? Gazra would be a better fit for us than 1 year of Santana.

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