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Frankly I would use Hopper myself (although I know how people feel about him) but that can only work if Griffey were moved to another team.
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12-12-2007, 07:06 PM
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12-12-2007, 07:10 PM
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Brandon Phillips is the epitome of a Mr. Swing-at-Everything. Nothing I have ever seen from him indicates that will ever change. Votto's PA/Out ratio in Louisville last season was 1.54; with the Reds in September it was 1.56. It wouldn't shock me if Joey Votto posts an on-base percentage more than 20 points higher than Brandon Phillips in 2008. Wouldn't shock me one bit.
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12-12-2007, 07:16 PM
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12-12-2007, 07:22 PM
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12-12-2007, 07:29 PM
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Holding off the reloading Cubs and young Brewers won't be easy, but the difference between the Reds, Cubs, and Brewers is that Dusty Baker knows how to win. He manages winners. He's been in the postseason before and won the National League Pennant in 2002. He knows that when the game is on the line, the little things become important, such as hitting the ball to the right side of the infield to move runners along. I wouldn't worry about the Reds in the National League Central. Dusty Baker managed teams have shown they can hold their composure on the field, and that will separate them from the Cubs and inexperienced Brewers. 
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12-12-2007, 07:31 PM
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12-12-2007, 07:32 PM
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Cyclone, if you were trying to channel Joe, you missed about 27 "consistent"s.
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12-12-2007, 07:33 PM
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Vlad's a hack, but gets pitched around enough and has enough plate discipline to lay off really BAD pitches that he'll still draw 60 walks a year when added into his intentional walks. Phillips would have to nearly double his total to reach that. Tony Gwynn was just a freak of nature who batted .338 lifetime.
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I'm sure we can fit 27 consistents in there though.
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