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AmarilloRed · 01-12-2008, 01:15 PM

Cards, Blue Jays set to swap third basemen
by Ken Rosenthal
Scott Rolen is on the verge of escaping St. Louis manager Tony La Russa. Troy Glaus is on the verge of escaping the artificial turf in Toronto.

The Cardinals and Blue Jays are closing in on an exchange of their third basemen, major-league sources say, but both former All-Stars must pass physicals before a deal is completed.

Those physicals are no small issue since Rolen is coming off surgery on his right shoulder and Glaus surgery on his left foot.

While both players have agreed to waive their no-trade clauses, the differences in their contracts also might need to be resolved, most likely through a cash payment from the Cardinals to the Blue Jays.

Rolen, 32, is owed $33 million over the next three seasons. Glaus, 31, is guaranteed $24 million over the next two, including an $11.25 million player option for 2009.

The commissioner's office must approve the trade if it involves a cash exchange of more than $1 million.

If the trade is completed, it would provide fresh starts for two players who — for different reasons — grew uncomfortable with their current clubs.

Rolen has feuded with La Russa since at least the 2006 season, when questions about Rolen's shoulder caused La Russa to bench him during the National League Championship Series.

The rift became untenable after La Russa wrote Rolen a four-page letter at the end of the season and then escalated the feud with comments he made at the Winter Meetings. La Russa said Rolen was the only Cardinal who did not want him to return as manager and that the team would not easily accommodate Rolen's request to be traded.

Glaus, meanwhile, is happy in Toronto but the change would benefit him physically. His recurring foot problems leave him better suited to play on a natural-grass surface such as the one at St. Louis' Busch Stadium.

Glaus appeared in only 115 games last season, batting .262 with 20 homers and 62 RBIs. Rolen appeared in only 112 games, batting .265 with eight homers and 58 RBIs.

The Cardinals acquired Rolen from the Phillies at the 2002 non-waiver deadline. The Jays obtained Glaus from the Diamondbacks after the 2005 season.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7665630

I hope both players can get a fresh start.

GoReds33 · 01-12-2008, 01:57 PM

I think the Cards got the good side of this trade.

Bip Roberts · 01-12-2008, 02:11 PM

I think the term here is "why bother"

jmac · 01-12-2008, 02:42 PM

I have a feeling both players will only be a shell of what they were so it will probably cancel each other out like offsetting personal fouls.

OldRed1966 · 01-12-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GoReds33

I think the Cards got the good side of this trade.

Good news for Reds fan. The Cardinals defense just got significantly worse at 3rd base.

GoReds33 · 01-12-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OldRed1966

Good news for Reds fan. The Cardinals defense just got significantly worse at 3rd base.

Yeah, but Glaus is a great power hitter. Remember, he's coming from the AL East. Some of that pitching is just awesome. I just hate to think what he's going to do at GABP next year.

TC81190 · 01-12-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoReds33

Yeah, but Glaus is a great power hitter. Remember, he's coming from the AL East. Some of that pitching is just awesome. I just hate to think what he's going to do at GABP next year.

I don't know, Glaus just doesn't seem to be capable of spending more time on a baseball field than in casts and on crutches.

maniem · 01-12-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OldRed1966

Good news for Reds fan. The Cardinals defense just got significantly worse at 3rd base.

Very true. However Glaus, if healthy, will provide much needed power to that lineup. I've always thought of Glaus as a right handed hitting Dunn. Below average D and high K's, but has a good eye with great power. Rolen's career OPS and OBP are higher than Glaus, not to mention being one of the best defensive third baseman of all time. If Rolen can stay healthy, Toronto wins this trade in my opinion.

Career OBP OPS

Rolen .372 .878
Glaus .358 .858

Bip Roberts · 01-12-2008, 07:23 PM

Glaus also was roided up in years past

Newman4 · 01-13-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bip Roberts

Glaus also was roided up in years past

Exactly. I'd rather have Rolen. Thanks Cards!

*BaseClogger* · 01-13-2008, 11:40 AM

I think that the Blue Jays did this trade because they have an extreme groundball pitching staff and Rolen offers better defense. That said, Glaus is no slouch defensively, or at least he used to be pretty good.

That or they just want to reunite Rolen with Eckstein

Dracodave · 01-13-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*

That or they just want to reunite Rolen with Eckstein

Maybe do the old Biggio Bagwell... Eckstein under hand throw to Rolen so Rolen can throw them out at First?

Stephenk29 · 01-13-2008, 08:58 PM

Seems pretty much like a total swap of equally valued players. Main thing is LaRussa gets rid of his headaches.

01-12-2008, 01:15 PM	#1
AmarilloRed Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Amarillo,Texas Posts: 3,997	Rolen-Glaus trade Cards, Blue Jays set to swap third basemen by Ken Rosenthal Scott Rolen is on the verge of escaping St. Louis manager Tony La Russa. Troy Glaus is on the verge of escaping the artificial turf in Toronto. The Cardinals and Blue Jays are closing in on an exchange of their third basemen, major-league sources say, but both former All-Stars must pass physicals before a deal is completed. Those physicals are no small issue since Rolen is coming off surgery on his right shoulder and Glaus surgery on his left foot. While both players have agreed to waive their no-trade clauses, the differences in their contracts also might need to be resolved, most likely through a cash payment from the Cardinals to the Blue Jays. Rolen, 32, is owed $33 million over the next three seasons. Glaus, 31, is guaranteed $24 million over the next two, including an $11.25 million player option for 2009. The commissioner's office must approve the trade if it involves a cash exchange of more than $1 million. If the trade is completed, it would provide fresh starts for two players who — for different reasons — grew uncomfortable with their current clubs. Rolen has feuded with La Russa since at least the 2006 season, when questions about Rolen's shoulder caused La Russa to bench him during the National League Championship Series. The rift became untenable after La Russa wrote Rolen a four-page letter at the end of the season and then escalated the feud with comments he made at the Winter Meetings. La Russa said Rolen was the only Cardinal who did not want him to return as manager and that the team would not easily accommodate Rolen's request to be traded. Glaus, meanwhile, is happy in Toronto but the change would benefit him physically. His recurring foot problems leave him better suited to play on a natural-grass surface such as the one at St. Louis' Busch Stadium. Glaus appeared in only 115 games last season, batting .262 with 20 homers and 62 RBIs. Rolen appeared in only 112 games, batting .265 with eight homers and 58 RBIs. The Cardinals acquired Rolen from the Phillies at the 2002 non-waiver deadline. The Jays obtained Glaus from the Diamondbacks after the 2005 season. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7665630 I hope both players can get a fresh start. Last edited by AmarilloRed; 01-12-2008 at 01:24 PM.

01-12-2008, 02:11 PM	#3
Bip Roberts Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,189	Re: Rolen-Glaus trade I think the term here is "why bother"

01-12-2008, 02:42 PM	#4
jmac part of BBN Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,300	Re: Rolen-Glaus trade I have a feeling both players will only be a shell of what they were so it will probably cancel each other out like offsetting personal fouls.

01-12-2008, 07:23 PM	#9
Bip Roberts Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,189	Re: Rolen-Glaus trade Glaus also was roided up in years past

01-13-2008, 11:40 AM	#11
BaseClogger WOOOOO!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 6,078	Re: Rolen-Glaus trade I think that the Blue Jays did this trade because they have an extreme groundball pitching staff and Rolen offers better defense. That said, Glaus is no slouch defensively, or at least he used to be pretty good. That or they just want to reunite Rolen with Eckstein __________________ "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

01-13-2008, 08:58 PM	#13
Stephenk29 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 709	Re: Rolen-Glaus trade Seems pretty much like a total swap of equally valued players. Main thing is LaRussa gets rid of his headaches.

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