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Superdude · 02-20-2008, 10:59 PM

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"Boy, [Hopper] can hit that ball hard. He's a strong little dude," Baker said. "The ball made a loud sound. I use my ears a lot. I can tell what kind of bat speed [he] has by that sound."

Is he being sarcastic? He's talking about a guy who in the past decade has hit 3 homeruns! This sounds like a jock quarterback sarcastically hitting on the ugly girl at lunch. Dusty Baker officially scares me.

Spitball · 02-20-2008, 11:05 PM

Hyperbole flowed regularly from Spary like a fountain. I think we can assume these comments come from the same managerial handbook.

cincrazy · 02-20-2008, 11:06 PM

Nothing wrong with complimenting a player

. Hopper isn't a star by any means, but he can be a useful part of this ballclub if used correctly. It's not that he doesn't have a place on a roster, he just has to be utilitzed correctly. Hopefully Dusty can do that.

fearofpopvol1 · 02-20-2008, 11:26 PM

I predict this will be the 1st of many threads regarding "Dusty" and a "wow" comment...

Highlifeman21 · 02-20-2008, 11:28 PM

Dusty's just planting the seed of justification about starting Norris Hopper in CF and batting him leadoff.

Ravenlord · 02-20-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Highlifeman21

Dusty's just planting the seed of justification about starting Norris Hopper in CF and batting him leadoff.

along with creating a reputation of bat speed that'll probably have some influence on other organizations at some point.

remdog · 02-20-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Superdude

Is he being sarcastic? He's talking about a guy who in the past decade has hit 3 homeruns!

Some players hit the ball hard without hitting home runs. It's about striking the ball squarely and knowing your capacity for putting the ball in play or swinging for the fences.

Rem

Superdude · 02-20-2008, 11:58 PM

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Some players hit the ball hard without hitting home runs. It's about striking the ball squarely and knowing your capacity for putting the ball in play or swinging for the fences.

I know what you mean, but I don't think I saw Hopper get the ball out of the infield more than a few times last year. He's like the essence of not hitting the ball hard. I'm not saying he's a bad player, but wouldn't "scrappy" be a more fitting compliment?

remdog · 02-21-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Superdude

I know what you mean, but I don't think I saw Hopper get the ball out of the infield more than a few times last year. He's like the essence of not hitting the ball hard. I'm not saying he's a bad player, but wouldn't "scrappy" be a more fitting compliment?

Please, please, please....no more 'scrappy'....!! :LOL:

'Scrappy' is such a damning term yet there are values to that type of player! Admitedly, these guys aren't going to be HOFer's but they can help a ball club and can play important roles. Ed Armbrister, Billy Bates and others were 'scrappy'. There is no way that they will win you a pennant on their own but, with a base of solid players, these are the type of guys that can get you over the top.

The Reds problem right now is that they don't have that solid core of players where a 'scrappy' guy could make a difference.

Rem

Ltlabner · 02-21-2008, 06:49 AM

Something tells me this is not the last of the Dusty-isms that will set RZ on fire.

As an offical anti-Dustyite this seems par for the course. He's "old school" so there's going to be lots of mystical voo-doo stuff that he, and only he, as an experienced and trained baseball manager, can decipher.

lollipopcurve · 02-21-2008, 07:15 AM

Hopper makes a lot of solid contact. And unlike Freel (at least last year), who hits a lot of fly balls, he usually puts it on a line or on the ground, as he should do.
Hopper has proved to be a much better player than many here have given him credit for, beginning with his callup in 06 and continuing to today.

redsmetz · 02-21-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lollipopcurve

Hopper makes a lot of solid contact. And unlike Freel (at least last year), who hits a lot of fly balls, he usually puts it on a line or on the ground, as he should do.
Hopper has proved to be a much better player than many here have given him credit for, beginning with his callup in 06 and continuing to today.

That's what I thought when I was reading these laments. Sadly, I think there will be folks all season who have chosen to dislike Baker and we will, as someone noted, see lots of these types of threads.

I like Hopper alot and I think he's an important cog on this team. I'm not advocating for him to start, but I like having him available.

PuffyPig · 02-21-2008, 07:43 AM

If everyone is going to disect every Baker comment,we will get posts like this all year.

He said Hopper hit the ball hard.

Big deal. Move on. Nothing here.

camisadelgolf · 02-21-2008, 09:35 AM

From what I've seen, during batting practice, contact hitters often look like sluggers.

traderumor · 02-21-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

If everyone is going to disect every Baker comment,we will get posts like this all year.

He said Hopper hit the ball hard.

Big deal. Move on. Nothing here.

More like dissect every quote (see Volquez thread)

02-20-2008, 11:05 PM	#2
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02-20-2008, 11:06 PM	#3
cincrazy Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Vienna, OH Posts: 4,130	Re: Dusty Baker...wow Nothing wrong with complimenting a player . Hopper isn't a star by any means, but he can be a useful part of this ballclub if used correctly. It's not that he doesn't have a place on a roster, he just has to be utilitzed correctly. Hopefully Dusty can do that.

02-20-2008, 11:26 PM	#4
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02-20-2008, 11:28 PM	#5
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02-21-2008, 06:49 AM	#10
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02-21-2008, 07:15 AM	#11
lollipopcurve Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shelburne Falls, MA Posts: 9,480	Re: Dusty Baker...wow Hopper makes a lot of solid contact. And unlike Freel (at least last year), who hits a lot of fly balls, he usually puts it on a line or on the ground, as he should do. Hopper has proved to be a much better player than many here have given him credit for, beginning with his callup in 06 and continuing to today. __________________ "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

02-21-2008, 07:43 AM	#13
PuffyPig Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,711	Re: Dusty Baker...wow If everyone is going to disect every Baker comment,we will get posts like this all year. He said Hopper hit the ball hard. Big deal. Move on. Nothing here.

02-21-2008, 09:35 AM	#14
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