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Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
Dodgers' Bowa says he will ignore helmet rule for coaches.
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Matt's Dad
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
Not sure how I feel about this one. In this situation, I somehow think that it should be left up to the individual. The coaches on the baselines are not in nearly as much danger as the pitcher. I understand MLB being proactive, but these guys have been around the game for a long time and they are adults that can make a decision for themselves. I agree with Bowa about the bats being more dangerous than the balls. Next thing you know, they are going to put up plexi-glass or netting up and down the baselines to protect the fans.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
I am not sure where to stand on this issue. I respect that Bowa and others do not want to wear the helmet/shell. The "shell" the coaches are actually wearing, from what I can tell, wouldn't have saved Coolbaugh's life. Just from what I can tell.
I know that everyone wants to look cool out on the field and the shell certainly takes away from that. I just wonder if there is a better solution? Rules are rules though and I am not advocating that Bowa or any other coach has the authority to undermine the establishmnet.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
first hockey games that I ever attended had the maskless Andy Brown in goal.
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Matt's Dad
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
TC, I think you would agree that the helmets are not that uncomfortable, but I know they are quite hot in the middle of the summer. If it were me, I would probably just suck it up and put the helmet on, but I understand and respect the guys that don't want to wear it.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
Bowa should wear the "shell" and shut up. People that work with food probably don't enjoy hair nets. Men who work in hospitals don't look real cool wearing collar-less smocks. My dad was an outstanding body and fender man, but felt like a clown wearing a blue and white striped shirt that identified him as Mr. Goodwrench. Granted, not all of that is safety gear, but the point is that you have to drive around in a car with a big bug on it or a Dominoe's pizza sign to make a living once in a while. There are rules, and they are set by the folks you make out the checks. Baseball is no different. I would fine him the first couple times he doesn't comply, then escalate it if he insists.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
I predict that Bud makes the decision easier for Bowa. We'll see if Bowa's head is hard enough to lose his job over the lack of a helmet on it.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
Baseball has been played for what a 100+ years and one coach has died from a batted ball(that I know of anyway). While I disagree with Bowa's approach to the situation (although not a bit surprised that he'd act this way) I do agree with him that its ridiculous to make base coaches were helmets. There's a greater likelihood of getting killed in the parking lot than by a batted ball. The most vulnerable person on the field is the pitcher and they've done nothing to prevent them from taking a line drive in the coconut. I am somewhat surprised and have wondered for a long time that umps don't where helmets, although several are now wearing the goalie style mask/helment combo.
My prediction is that MLB will relax the helmet rule for coaches before the start of the regular season.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
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I agree, the Coolbaugh thing was a tragedy but it was a freak accident. Just yet another example where societies "Safety Nazis" are taking advantage of one unfortunate incident and imposing rules that will make ultimately make zero difference.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
This is a ridiculous rule on the part of MLB and an overreaction to a tragic happening. Thousands of people die on the interstates every year and we could save those lives if we instituted a 10 MPH speed limit but we don't. We accept some risk in life. Surely folks like Bowa know the risk of getting hit with a batted ball while on the field. He's spent half his life and the baseball field. This rule is absolute nuts IMO.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
I look at it like the law requiring motorcycle helmets, a few riders are against it until something bad happens to them.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
I'd say if he's willing to sign a waiver that the team/MLB are not responsible for anything that happens while he is coaching if he is not wearing the helmet like he's supposed to, let him go without it.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
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A smarter approach would have been to phase in this equipment change like the NHL phased in its helmet requirement. I'm sure that in the anguished days following Coolbaugh's death, baseball didn't anticipate any resistance to preventing another tragedy. It's probably too late for a phase-in now.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
I think everyone on the field should wear Bronson Arroyo's geeky two-flap Little League helmet.
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Re: Being Hard Headed Still - Bowa
What is the real issue, that the coaches are in the line of a foul ball? If so, then aren't a bunch of fans along the baseline in danger, too?
And really, shouldn't they be more worried about these guys?
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