Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

dougdirt · 03-05-2008, 09:13 AM

Vote for the player who you think is the Reds #40 prospect (the best prospect who is not yet on the list). We will go with this as far as you guys want to take it.

I will post a new list every 2 days with 10-15 options to vote on.

If you feel like making an argument on why a guy should be voted here, feel free to vote and state why you voted for that player.

If there is someone that is not currently listed as an option to vote on, vote for 'other' then just state who you want to vote for in the thread.

If there is anyone you would like to see as an option on the next poll, just say so and if they garner enough support, they will be placed on the next poll. Guys with the lowest amount of votes will usually be removed for the next few guys who were talked about in the previous thread.

Prospect 1 - Jay Bruce
Prospect 2 - Homer Bailey
Prospect 3 - Johnny Cueto
Prospect 4 - Joey Votto
Prospect 5 - Todd Frazier
Prospect 6 - Drew Stubbs
Prospect 7 - Matt Maloney
Prospect 8 - Josh Roenicke
Prospect 9 - Travis Wood
Prospect 10 - Devin Mesoraco
Prospect 11 - Kyle Lotzkar
Prospect 12 - Danny Dorn
Prospect 13 - Sean Watson
Prospect 14 - Carlos Fisher
Prospect 15 - Juan Francisco
Prospect 16 - Neftali Soto
Prospect 17 - Brandon Waring
Prospect 18 - Adam Rosales
Prospect 19 - Tyler Pelland
Prospect 20 - Daryl Thompson
Prospect 21 - Pedro Viola
Prospect 22 - Chris Valaika
Prospect 23 - Sam Lecure
Prospect 24 - Marcus McBeth
Prospect 25 - Justin Turner
Prospect 26 - Chris Dickerson
Prospect 27 - Scott Carroll
Prospect 28 - Richie Gardner
Prospect 29 - Justin Reed
Prospect 30 - Paul Janish
Prospect 31 - Alexander Smit
Prospect 32 - Danny Herrera
Prospect 33 - Zach Cozart
Prospect 34 - Tzu-Kai Chiu
Prospect 35 - Ramon Ramrirez
Prospect 36 - Derrik Lutz
Prospect 37 - Evan Hildenbrandt
Prospect 38 - Josh Ravin
Prospect 39 - Ben Jukich

AdamDunn · 03-05-2008, 11:20 AM

Juan Duran!!

New Fever · 03-05-2008, 11:24 AM

Juan Duran also.

dougdirt · 03-05-2008, 11:31 AM

Maybe its just me, but I don't think he should qualify for the list. Heck, I would go back and put him with Todd Frazier and Devin Mesoraco on my personal list. Since he wasn't in the system when the list started, I decided to not vote for him here.

Danny Serafini · 03-05-2008, 11:44 AM

That high for a 16 year old kid? Based on what?

dougdirt · 03-05-2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Serafini

That high for a 16 year old kid? Based on what?

Based on everything we rank prospects on. Tools and potential ability. The Reds paid him 200,000 less than both Todd Frazier and Devin Mesoraco got last year combined. They obviously think enough of him to pay him the kind of money top 10 draft picks get at age 16, which tells me the kid is something absolutely special.

dougdirt · 03-05-2008, 11:58 AM

For a reference point, Angel Villalona signed last year at age 16 for nearly identical money and came in, without playing a game, at #3 on the Giants Top 10 list behind Tim Lincecum and Jonathon Sanchez. Now obviously their system at the time wasn't as strong as ours is currently, but basically ask yourself where you would rank a Top 10 draft pick in your teams top 10 list, because that is essentially what we are talking about here.

Danny Serafini · 03-05-2008, 12:16 PM

OK, what exactly are his tools and his abilities? What do we really know about the guy other than his signing bonus?

Will M · 03-05-2008, 12:24 PM

Other - Juan Duran

dougdirt · 03-05-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Serafini

OK, what exactly are his tools and his abilities? What do we really know about the guy other than his signing bonus?

Did you not read the Baseball America article from the other post?

We don't really know what his arm is, since it does appear that it has been injured lately.

However his power potential is an 80 (Jay Bruce for example rates out at a 65).

He has very good speed as well.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...08/265719.html

Go read the article if you haven't. Tons of stuff in there that just make you sit back and say wow.

Screwball · 03-05-2008, 12:34 PM

Is there any active player that currently rates as an 80 power? Guys like Pujols, Ryan Howard, or A-Rod?

dougdirt · 03-05-2008, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screwball

Is there any active player that currently rates as an 80 power? Guys like Pujols, Ryan Howard, or A-Rod?

I would imagine those guys are at least 70 type guys.

kheidg- · 03-05-2008, 01:24 PM

For sake of this being the last vote and 'other' meaning nothing, I am going with Jose Castro here.

camisadelgolf · 03-05-2008, 02:42 PM

I've got the hots for Heisey on this one. It's a shame he's been over-shadowed by Dorn.

AdamDunn · 03-05-2008, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougdirt

I would imagine those guys are at least 70 type guys.

If those guys aren't 70, then who in history qualifies as an 80?

View Poll Results: Who is the Reds #40 Prospect
Drew Anderson	2	4.55%
Brett Bartles	0	0%
Jose Castro	4	9.09%
Rafael Gonzalez	1	2.27%
Ryan Hanigan	2	4.55%
Chris Heisey	6	13.64%
Sean Henry	0	0%
Logan Parker	1	2.27%
Juan Rafael	0	0%
Jordan Smith	1	2.27%
Craig Tatum	15	34.09%
Phil Valiquette	5	11.36%
Other (please specify)	7	15.91%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

03-05-2008, 09:13 AM	#1
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 31,108	Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 Vote for the player who you think is the Reds #40 prospect (the best prospect who is not yet on the list). We will go with this as far as you guys want to take it. I will post a new list every 2 days with 10-15 options to vote on. If you feel like making an argument on why a guy should be voted here, feel free to vote and state why you voted for that player. If there is someone that is not currently listed as an option to vote on, vote for 'other' then just state who you want to vote for in the thread. If there is anyone you would like to see as an option on the next poll, just say so and if they garner enough support, they will be placed on the next poll. Guys with the lowest amount of votes will usually be removed for the next few guys who were talked about in the previous thread. Prospect 1 - Jay Bruce Prospect 2 - Homer Bailey Prospect 3 - Johnny Cueto Prospect 4 - Joey Votto Prospect 5 - Todd Frazier Prospect 6 - Drew Stubbs Prospect 7 - Matt Maloney Prospect 8 - Josh Roenicke Prospect 9 - Travis Wood Prospect 10 - Devin Mesoraco Prospect 11 - Kyle Lotzkar Prospect 12 - Danny Dorn Prospect 13 - Sean Watson Prospect 14 - Carlos Fisher Prospect 15 - Juan Francisco Prospect 16 - Neftali Soto Prospect 17 - Brandon Waring Prospect 18 - Adam Rosales Prospect 19 - Tyler Pelland Prospect 20 - Daryl Thompson Prospect 21 - Pedro Viola Prospect 22 - Chris Valaika Prospect 23 - Sam Lecure Prospect 24 - Marcus McBeth Prospect 25 - Justin Turner Prospect 26 - Chris Dickerson Prospect 27 - Scott Carroll Prospect 28 - Richie Gardner Prospect 29 - Justin Reed Prospect 30 - Paul Janish Prospect 31 - Alexander Smit Prospect 32 - Danny Herrera Prospect 33 - Zach Cozart Prospect 34 - Tzu-Kai Chiu Prospect 35 - Ramon Ramrirez Prospect 36 - Derrik Lutz Prospect 37 - Evan Hildenbrandt Prospect 38 - Josh Ravin Prospect 39 - Ben Jukich __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

03-05-2008, 11:20 AM	#2
AdamDunn Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 407	Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 Juan Duran!!

03-05-2008, 11:44 AM	#5
Danny Serafini 15 game winner Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sultanes de Monterrey Posts: 4,174	Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 That high for a 16 year old kid? Based on what?

03-05-2008, 11:58 AM	#7
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 31,108	Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 For a reference point, Angel Villalona signed last year at age 16 for nearly identical money and came in, without playing a game, at #3 on the Giants Top 10 list behind Tim Lincecum and Jonathon Sanchez. Now obviously their system at the time wasn't as strong as ours is currently, but basically ask yourself where you would rank a Top 10 draft pick in your teams top 10 list, because that is essentially what we are talking about here. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

03-05-2008, 11:24 AM	#3
New Fever Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Memphis Posts: 756	Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 Juan Duran also.

03-05-2008, 11:31 AM	#4
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 31,108	Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 Maybe its just me, but I don't think he should qualify for the list. Heck, I would go back and put him with Todd Frazier and Devin Mesoraco on my personal list. Since he wasn't in the system when the list started, I decided to not vote for him here. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

03-05-2008, 12:16 PM	#8
Danny Serafini 15 game winner Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sultanes de Monterrey Posts: 4,174	Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 OK, what exactly are his tools and his abilities? What do we really know about the guy other than his signing bonus?

03-05-2008, 12:24 PM	#9
Will M Brett William Moore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Crescent Springs KY Posts: 3,513	Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 Other - Juan Duran __________________ .

03-05-2008, 12:34 PM	#11
Screwball Boom Goes the Dynamite Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Chester Posts: 2,406	Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 Is there any active player that currently rates as an 80 power? Guys like Pujols, Ryan Howard, or A-Rod?

03-05-2008, 01:24 PM	#13
kheidg- Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,678	Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 For sake of this being the last vote and 'other' meaning nothing, I am going with Jose Castro here.

03-05-2008, 02:42 PM	#14
camisadelgolf Vampire Weekend @Bernie's Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 11,311	Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #40 I've got the hots for Heisey on this one. It's a shame he's been over-shadowed by Dorn.

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