RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion  

Go Back   RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion > RedsZone > The Old Red Guard

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-06-2008, 09:36 AM   #1
redsmetz
Redsmetz
 
redsmetz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Winton Place
Posts: 10,449
Option Rules & Options as the Season Approaches

I noticed the question in the Chip's always great Hot Stove League report that a caller asked whether Freel still has options. I thought I'd post this little excerpt from an explanation of options from Scouts.com so we can be aware of what moves can be made by the club. I'm also including a link to Cot's Reds Contract page.

So, for instance, according to Cot's, Freel has just 4.14 years of ML experience, so he would have to clear waivers if he still has an option (and I don't know the answer to that question; I can't remember the list of Reds players who still do). Griffey, who still has options, would have to give his written agreement since he has five years plus of ML experience.

Here's the excerpt:

Quote:
Options never used

At the other end of the experience spectrum, an interesting phenomenon occurs when a player rises quickly through the minors before reaching the big leagues, then sticks there. Take Albert Pujols for example. He has all three option years remaining –not that they will ever be used. But, they still remain as a reminder of how rapidly his star ascended.

Many other Cardinals front-liners, such as Chris Carpenter, Jason Isringhausen, Jim Edmonds and Scott Rolen also have remaining options, for what it is worth. It is important to remember that waivers is the only alternative that can be used for passing these players to the minors when more than three years has elapsed since they first came up, even though they still have options remaining.

There is another catch. Once a player has five or more years of experience, his written consent is required before he can be sent to the minors. There are times when a player exercises that right to stay put in the majors. Even if the player agrees to go down, he must pass through waivers, where another team may claim him.
Here's Cot's page

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...i-reds_24.html

The site also explains regular options as well:

Quote:
Once a player is placed on the 40-man roster, such as Brendan Ryan and Travis Hanson this off-season, their clock starts ticking. The team only has three option years for that player to complete their minor league preparation. By the time those three years are exhausted, the player either must be ready to join the 25-man big league roster for good or the team will risk losing the player to another organization.

There is a key point often misunderstood about options. Cardinals Assistant General Manager John Mozeliak explained it to me this way. “The use of options is based on years, not occurrences. What that means is that a player could be sent down and brought back up multiple times during a single season and that would still use up only one option year in the process.”

Only twenty days spent in the minors at any time during the season will cause that year's option to be spent.
__________________
“In the same way that a baseball season never really begins, it never really ends either.” - Lonnie Wheeler, "Bleachers, A Summer in Wrigley Field"

The Baseball Emporium - Books & Things, that's Rallyonion.com

The Baseball Bookstore

http://tsc-sales.com/
http://tscsales.blogspot.com/
http://silverscreenbooks.com/
redsmetz is offline   Reply With Quote
Turn Off Ads?
Old 03-06-2008, 09:43 AM   #2
princeton
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: princeton, nj
Posts: 9,482
Re: Option Rules & Options as the Season Approaches

out of options: RHP Bronson Arroyo, IF Juan Castro, RHP Francisco Cordero, IF/OF Ryan Freel, 1B Scott Hatteberg, IF/OF Jeff Keppinger, 2B Brandon Phillips, C David Ross, C Javier Valentin and RHP David Weathers.
princeton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 09:47 AM   #3
redsmetz
Redsmetz
 
redsmetz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Winton Place
Posts: 10,449
Re: Option Rules & Options as the Season Approaches

Quote:
Originally Posted by princeton View Post
out of options: RHP Bronson Arroyo, IF Juan Castro, RHP Francisco Cordero, IF/OF Ryan Freel, 1B Scott Hatteberg, IF/OF Jeff Keppinger, 2B Brandon Phillips, C David Ross, C Javier Valentin and RHP David Weathers.
Thanks for the update. I think Weathers has been out of options since the Nixon administration.
__________________
“In the same way that a baseball season never really begins, it never really ends either.” - Lonnie Wheeler, "Bleachers, A Summer in Wrigley Field"

The Baseball Emporium - Books & Things, that's Rallyonion.com

The Baseball Bookstore

http://tsc-sales.com/
http://tscsales.blogspot.com/
http://silverscreenbooks.com/
redsmetz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 01:53 PM   #4
KronoRed
The Lineups stink.
 
KronoRed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: West N. Carolina
Posts: 55,342
Re: Option Rules & Options as the Season Approaches

Can we rework their contracts to get them more options?

__________________
Go Gators!
KronoRed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2008, 03:52 AM   #5
camisadelgolf
Vampire Weekend @Bernie's
 
camisadelgolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 11,311
Re: Option Rules & Options as the Season Approaches

Quote:
Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
Can we rework their contracts to get them more options?

Absolutely. Wily Mo Pena offered it several times when he was a Red.
camisadelgolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!

RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball

Contact us: Boss | GIK | dabvu2498 | GADawg | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | mattfeet | MBZags | Plus Plus | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25