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Matt700wlw · 03-27-2008, 05:00 PM

What were they thinking?

- Texas is a team that has a high-octane offense but a pitching staff that forces parents to cover their children's eyes, and so what was the big off-season move? Trading its best young pitcher, Edinson Volquez, to add a bat, Josh Hamilton. No knock on Hamilton. He's a legitimate offensive force. But guess what the biggest concern is in Texas? Right. It's pitching. Guess what's up with Volquez? He's in the Reds rotation.

- Pitchers Kyle Lohse and Josh Fogg, who both passed on solid offers to remain with teams that appreciated their value, spent the winter searching the free-agent market, and wound up being bargain signs — Lohse in St. Louis and Fogg with the Reds.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7...ing-winds-down

RedLegSuperStar · 03-27-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

What were they thinking?

- Texas is a team that has a high-octane offense but a pitching staff that forces parents to cover their children's eyes, and so what was the big off-season move? Trading its best young pitcher, Edinson Volquez, to add a bat, Josh Hamilton. No knock on Hamilton. He's a legitimate offensive force. But guess what the biggest concern is in Texas? Right. It's pitching. Guess what's up with Volquez? He's in the Reds rotation.

Not only is he in the Reds rotation but he's pitching like a 3rd spot starter. 26k's and 4 walks! That is huge!

RedLegSuperStar · 03-27-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

What were they thinking?

- Pitchers Kyle Lohse and Josh Fogg, who both passed on solid offers to remain with teams that appreciated their value, spent the winter searching the free-agent market, and wound up being bargain signs — Lohse in St. Louis and Fogg with the Reds.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7...ing-winds-down

Fogg missed an oppertunity to cash in and the Reds lucked out and got him for $4 million less.

traderumor · 03-27-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar

Fogg missed an oppertunity to cash in and the Reds lucked out and got him for $4 million less.

No one paying Josh Fogg to pitch is lucking out

Spring~Fields · 03-27-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by traderumor

No one paying Josh Fogg to pitch is lucking out

I'm expecting big things from the Fogg

reds44 · 03-27-2008, 06:16 PM

Would you have rather had Kyle Loshe or Josh Fogg as the Reds 5th starter? I would have liked Loshe more.

Highlifeman21 · 03-27-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by reds44

Would you have rather had Kyle Loshe or Josh Fogg as the Reds 5th starter? I would have liked Loshe more.

Kyle Lohse, by a landslide.

SMcGavin · 03-27-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by reds44

Would you have rather had Kyle Loshe or Josh Fogg as the Reds 5th starter? I would have liked Loshe more.

Clearly Lohse, and I don't think it's close. For all the grief he gets Kyle Lohse is not a bad pitcher.

Always Red · 03-27-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by reds44

Would you have rather had Kyle Loshe or Josh Fogg as the Reds 5th starter? I would have liked Loshe more.

We had Lohse once and I couldn't wait for them to trade him the first time.

I don't think Fogg will be here much longer than Lohse was, to be honest.

Highlifeman21 · 03-27-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Always Red

We had Lohse once and I couldn't wait for them to trade him the first time.

I don't think Fogg will be here much longer than Lohse was, to be honest.

If that's the case, then I hope we get a similar return on investment that we did for Lohse.

Ga_Red · 03-27-2008, 06:32 PM

It says here that

JF wins more games
pitches more innings
has more quality starts
for the Reds

than

KL does for the Redbirds.

As many as want to put
10 bucks down against
this proposition,
send me an email,
by 3/31.

2 out of 3
determines the winner.

RedlegJake · 03-27-2008, 08:27 PM

Ga Red...I don;t want to bet you...I'd like to take some of that action, too. Fogg will outwin Lohse while Kyle is busy looking all peripherally like the better pitcher. But you know, winning doesn't mean anything...

Josh is just a lot luckier. Every year.

Redhook · 03-27-2008, 08:34 PM

The fact that there's an argument over who would be better between Fogg and Lohse as our #5 starter is a great thing. If this was last year, we'd be arguing who would #3 between the two.

mbgrayson · 03-27-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SpringfieldFan

I'm expecting big things from the Fogg

Like a big ERA?....lol

paintmered · 03-27-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Redhook

The fact that there's an argument over who would be better between Fogg and Lohse as our #5 starter is a great thing. If this was last year, we'd be arguing who would #3 between the two.

It wasn't too long ago that Joey Hamilton and Corey Lidle were our Opening Day starters.

03-27-2008, 05:00 PM	#1
Matt700wlw Making sense of it all Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26,130	Fox Sports: What Were They Thinking?? What were they thinking? - Texas is a team that has a high-octane offense but a pitching staff that forces parents to cover their children's eyes, and so what was the big off-season move? Trading its best young pitcher, Edinson Volquez, to add a bat, Josh Hamilton. No knock on Hamilton. He's a legitimate offensive force. But guess what the biggest concern is in Texas? Right. It's pitching. Guess what's up with Volquez? He's in the Reds rotation. - Pitchers Kyle Lohse and Josh Fogg, who both passed on solid offers to remain with teams that appreciated their value, spent the winter searching the free-agent market, and wound up being bargain signs — Lohse in St. Louis and Fogg with the Reds. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7...ing-winds-down __________________ An excited shade of Red

03-27-2008, 06:32 PM	#11
Ga_Red Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Ga Posts: 2,361	Re: Fox Sports: What Were They Thinking?? It says here that JF wins more games pitches more innings has more quality starts for the Reds than KL does for the Redbirds. As many as want to put 10 bucks down against this proposition, send me an email, by 3/31. 2 out of 3 determines the winner. __________________ The happiest people don't need the best of every-thing; they make the best of everything they have. --- 'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.' ---

03-27-2008, 08:27 PM	#12
RedlegJake Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North Kansas City, Mo Posts: 3,838	Re: Fox Sports: What Were They Thinking?? Ga Red...I don;t want to bet you...I'd like to take some of that action, too. Fogg will outwin Lohse while Kyle is busy looking all peripherally like the better pitcher. But you know, winning doesn't mean anything... Josh is just a lot luckier. Every year.

03-27-2008, 08:34 PM	#13
Redhook Miami Redhawks Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cincy Posts: 2,247	Re: Fox Sports: What Were They Thinking?? The fact that there's an argument over who would be better between Fogg and Lohse as our #5 starter is a great thing. If this was last year, we'd be arguing who would #3 between the two. __________________ "....the two players I liked watching the most were Barry Larkin and Eric Davis. I was suitably entertained by their effortless skill that I didn't need them crashing into walls like a squirrel on a coke binge." - dsmith421 www.kylevoska.com - Golfer? Check out my blog for golf tips.

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