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TRF · 04-07-2008, 04:11 PM

I don't see him on the Padres' 25 man roster, see no transaction disabling him or any trade with the Reds. Any info on him?

camisadelgolf · 04-07-2008, 04:14 PM

He's on the DL with a strained right groin.

BRM · 04-07-2008, 04:14 PM

They put him on the 15 day DL on March 26th.

Joseph · 04-07-2008, 04:14 PM

Check the DL.

edabbs44 · 04-07-2008, 04:28 PM

Not sure if you heard, but rumor has it he is on the DL.

lollipopcurve · 04-07-2008, 04:28 PM

the ole Rule V DL, that is

TRF · 04-07-2008, 04:33 PM

So, he's on the DL?

They must really like him.

I think Burton got DL'd last year too.

SarasotaFan · 04-07-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TRF

So, he's on the DL?

They must really like him.

I think Burton got DL'd last year too.

not once, but twice...

G is on the DL - this gives the Padres more time to check him out and see if they really wanna keep him on the 25 man the rest of the year...

04-11-2008, 07:36 AM

Does anyone has clips of Guevara pitching screwball?

Orenda · 04-30-2008, 05:22 PM

Does anybody know how long the Padres can keep someone on the 15 day DL? Even if that is business days he should have been activated or sent on a rehab assignment by now, right? That must be one severe pulled groin.

princeton · 04-30-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by summerplight

Does anybody know how long the Padres can keep someone on the 15 day DL? Even if that is business days he should have been activated or sent on a rehab assignment by now, right? That must be one severe pulled groin.

he can be kept on DL for a long time, but if not on the 25 man roster for a minimum amount of time for the entire season (what is it, 90 days?) then he'd have to be offered back to the Reds.

Teams like to make sure that 30 of the days spent in the bigs come in September, when larger rosters are permitted. The Reds did that with Jared Burton last year-- DL'd him for a significant period of time, then made sure that 30 of his major league days came in September.

redsmetz · 04-30-2008, 06:54 PM

One recent twist though is that the time he is required to stay on the 40 man can overlap into next season if he's on the DL for a certain length of time. I don't have time to check it now, but I'll see if I can find the reference.

princeton · 05-01-2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by redsmetz

One recent twist though is that the time he is required to stay on the 40 man can overlap into next season if he's on the DL for a certain length of time. I don't have time to check it now, but I'll see if I can find the reference.

25 man, not 40 man.

and it's true that he can be active for 30 days at end of 2008, then for 60 days in 2009, after which the team can option him to the minors.

mbgrayson · 05-04-2008, 12:02 PM

As of today, it looks like Guevara is still hurt. He is not even playing a 'rehab' assignment in the minors as far as I can see.

Once he goes on rehab, he can only do so for 30 days...

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A disabled player may be assigned to a Minor League Club for injury rehabilitation for up to 20-days for position players. Pitchers can be granted as many as 30-days of Minor League Rehab.

Interesting Rule 5 reference is HERE.

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To prevent the abuse of the Rule 5 draft, the rule also states that the draftee must be active for at least 90 days. This keeps teams from drafting players, then placing them on the disabled list for the majority of the season. For example, if a Rule 5 draftee was only active for 67 days in his first season with his new club, he must be active for an additional 23 games in his second season to satisfy the Rule 5 requirements.

I can't find the full text of the actual rules anywhere. Does anyone know if there is a minimum number of active days the first year? Can the Padres disable Guevara all year, and then push his full 90 day active roster requirement on into 2009?

HERE is an article from this March that discusses Rule 5 on the MLB web site.

And HERE is an article on San Diego's use of the Rule 5, that mentions Guevara.

Screwball · 05-04-2008, 12:47 PM

Despite the efforts to prevent abuse of the Rule V draft, allowing teams two seasons to satisfy the 90 days stipulation seems to leave plenty of room for abuse. Put a guy on the DL for 5 months one year and 4 months the next, and you still satisfy the 90-day requirement.

I'd rather see the rule amended such that the 90-days must be fulfilled in one season, or the player has to be returned to the original team.

04-07-2008, 04:11 PM	#1
TRF Vavasor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 12,680	Carlos Guevara I don't see him on the Padres' 25 man roster, see no transaction disabling him or any trade with the Reds. Any info on him? __________________ "don't end up with a grandson with a dog collar."

04-07-2008, 04:14 PM	#2
camisadelgolf Vampire Weekend @Bernie's Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 11,311	Re: Carlos Guevara He's on the DL with a strained right groin.

04-07-2008, 04:14 PM	#3
BRM Let's ride Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado's eastern plains Posts: 11,232	Re: Carlos Guevara They put him on the 15 day DL on March 26th.

04-07-2008, 04:14 PM	#4
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04-07-2008, 04:28 PM	#5
edabbs44 Box of Frogs Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 15,823	Re: Carlos Guevara Not sure if you heard, but rumor has it he is on the DL.

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04-07-2008, 04:33 PM	#7
TRF Vavasor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 12,680	Re: Carlos Guevara So, he's on the DL? They must really like him. I think Burton got DL'd last year too. __________________ "don't end up with a grandson with a dog collar."

04-11-2008, 07:36 AM	#9
sasda Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Carlos Guevara Does anyone has clips of Guevara pitching screwball?

04-30-2008, 05:22 PM	#10
Orenda Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zihuatanejo Posts: 944	Re: Carlos Guevara Does anybody know how long the Padres can keep someone on the 15 day DL? Even if that is business days he should have been activated or sent on a rehab assignment by now, right? That must be one severe pulled groin.

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redsmetz Redsmetz Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winton Place Posts: 10,453	Re: Carlos Guevara One recent twist though is that the time he is required to stay on the 40 man can overlap into next season if he's on the DL for a certain length of time. I don't have time to check it now, but I'll see if I can find the reference. __________________ “In the same way that a baseball season never really begins, it never really ends either.” - Lonnie Wheeler, "Bleachers, A Summer in Wrigley Field" The Baseball Emporium - Books & Things, that's Rallyonion.com The Baseball Bookstore http://tsc-sales.com/ http://tscsales.blogspot.com/ http://silverscreenbooks.com/

05-04-2008, 12:47 PM	#15
Screwball Boom Goes the Dynamite Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Chester Posts: 2,406	Re: Carlos Guevara Despite the efforts to prevent abuse of the Rule V draft, allowing teams two seasons to satisfy the 90 days stipulation seems to leave plenty of room for abuse. Put a guy on the DL for 5 months one year and 4 months the next, and you still satisfy the 90-day requirement. I'd rather see the rule amended such that the 90-days must be fulfilled in one season, or the player has to be returned to the original team.

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