Kearns on the block

[LoganBuck]

Is replacing Dunn with Cabrera a palatable move?

[alexad]

Let us all remember one thing. Bailey was not drafted by Mr. K. so it might be possible that he would trade him. Danny O's players have been traded at will in most of the recent activities of this club.

[Javy Pornstache]

Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Garcia? Definitely interested. Vazquez? Less so. I think his arm is shot.

I agree. I would prefer Garcia of the three, and Garland over Vazquez as well. Another buddy of mine I recently talked with who's near Chicago said that there is still interest in Griffey as far as he can tell from a fan's perspective and reading White Sox media and, contingent on the Sox getting Schmidt, they would be likely moving one of their starters besides Buerhle and Contreras to get a CF back. Now it could be a lot of people other than Griffey but Kenny Williams seems to have a real like for Griffey.....and that's great news for Reds fans.

[osuceltic]

Originally Posted by Javy Pornstache

Yes. Sorry I didn't clarify that earlier. It was about the Reds.

He probably heard the same thing on the radio that I heard yesterday: Jeff Rimer was guess hosting with Kirk Herbstreit yesterday afternoon. They were talking about Griffey and Rimer asked Herbie if he'd still like the Reds even if they traded Griffey. Rimer said he had a friend "in the know" who said the Reds were close to a huge move that would change the team down there (or some wording to that effect). Of course, Herbie ignored that part of it and said he didn't care, he'd still like the Reds and off they went on a different subject.

This was on 1460 the Fan in Columbus. Rimer is a hockey broadcaster who has done other sports over the years. He's a veteran with a lot of contacts and doesn't throw stuff around without reason.

[Caveat Emperor]

Originally Posted by LoganBuck

Is replacing Dunn with Cabrera a palatable move?

I'd say it's almost a push -- Cabrera keeps getting better, though. The thought of him hitting in front of Ken Griffey Jr. is almost frightening. Personally, I take Cabrera 10 days out of 10.

Dunn Season/Career:

SPLIT	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	BA	OBP	SLG
Season	88	316	62	75	14	0	28	60	2	.237	.369	.547
Career	749	2587	482	639	141	6	186	434	43	.247	.381	.522

Cabrera Sesason/Career:

SPLIT	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	BA	OBP	SLG
Season	86	311	66	104	25	1	15	61	7	.334	.432	.566
Career	491	1841	312	563	120	7	93	351	13	.306	.378	.530

[Benihana]

Originally Posted by Red Leader

That would make sense for the Marlins and Angels, I believe. It'd have to be Edwin going to the Marlins, Dunn going to LAA, and us getting back Cabrera from thh Fish and Santana from the Angels. With maybe a prospect from us and the Angels also going to FLA.

So, three team trade:

Reds trade: Dunn and Edwn. Reds get M. Cabrera and E. Santana
Marlins trade: M. Cabrera. Marlins get E. Encarnacion, prospect from LAA, prospect from CIN.
Angels trade E. Santana. Angels get A. Dunn.

Makes sense. I'd have to seriously consider that trade if I were the Reds. Cabrera and Dunn's contracts would pretty much be the same over the next 5-6 years with Cabrera being a better defender, a RH bat, and a better hitter for AVG. E. Santana would be a great addition to the rotation for this year and would start with Arroyo, Harang, and maybe Bailey in 2007, with us only needing 1 LHSP between Claussen (if healthy) or Milton (if healthy) to serve as the 5th man.

Interesting.

I would do that deal in a SECOND. That would be the best trade the Reds have made since...Joe Morgan?

IMO, Cabrera = Dunn's production, plus he's 3.5 years younger. So essentially, its like trading EdE for Santana. As much as I'd rather trade Kearns than Dunn or EdE, where do I sign up for this deal?

That said, trading Kearns for a pitcher is exactly what I'd be looking to do if I were Kriv. Kudos to him for doing it (hopefully).

[Handofdeath]

In the next few weeks the franchise is going to make some dramatic changes. That's kind of cool and frightening at the same time.

[redsfan30]

Originally Posted by LoganBuck

Is replacing Dunn with Cabrera a palatable move?

Absolutely.

[LoganBuck]

If I can swap out Dunn and EdE for Cabrera, Santana, and add Denorfia to the lineup I would be very happy.

[acredsfan]

Originally Posted by alexad

Let us all remember one thing. Bailey was not drafted by Mr. K. so it might be possible that he would trade him. Danny O's players have been traded at will in most of the recent activities of this club.

If the other moves where he got rid of players from the previous regime weren't simply because the players didn't fit the team I would possibly agree, but a good GM doesn't trade off a player with the ability and potential Bailey posesses no matter who got them. Homer isn't going anywhere.

[reds44]

Originally Posted by osuceltic

He probably heard the same thing on the radio that I heard yesterday: Jeff Rimer was guess hosting with Kirk Herbstreit yesterday afternoon. They were talking about Griffey and Rimer asked Herbie if he'd still like the Reds even if they traded Griffey. Rimer said he had a friend "in the know" who said the Reds were close to a huge move that would change the team down there (or some wording to that effect). Of course, Herbie ignored that part of it and said he didn't care, he'd still like the Reds and off they went on a different subject.

This was on 1460 the Fan in Columbus. Rimer is a hockey broadcaster who has done other sports over the years. He's a veteran with a lot of contacts and doesn't throw stuff around without reason.

Here is the interesting thing about that....

If you remember on Friday night, when we went up 9-0 Griffey was taken out in the 3rd inning inning. Then Sunday he didn't play at all. Maybe a deal is close to going down, so we are trying to make sure he doesn't get hurt.

[Phil in BG]

Originally Posted by Handofdeath

In the next few weeks the franchise is going to make some dramatic changes. That's kind of cool and frightening at the same time.

Kind of cool and kind of frightening for sure, however, I trust this front office to make the team better. This ownership is all about accountability and results....something we aren't used to seeing.

The only move they've made I don't like is the Jerry Narron extension...I really wanted to see Lou next year.

[Reds Fanatic]

Originally Posted by reds44

Here is the interesting thing about that....

If you remember on Friday night, when we went up 9-0 Griffey was taken out in the 3rd inning inning. Then Sunday he didn't play at all. Maybe a deal is close to going down, so we are trying to make sure he doesn't get hurt.

Keep in mind Junior has to right to refuse any trade.

[OldXOhio]

Originally Posted by Handofdeath

The Reds could have gotten Freddy Garcia a couple years back for Aaron Boone but Leather Pants was too much of a jerk. Think about that rotation for the Reds.

IIRC, Garcia's numbers were ballooning at the time the trade for Boone was being proposed, to the point that teams were afraid to touch the guy.

[Joseph]

Originally Posted by Reds Fanatic

Keep in mind Junior has to right to refuse any trade.

Exellent point, but do you really think he'd refuse a trade to the Chi-Sox if he has a shot at a ring and can help the Reds too?