RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion  

Go Back   RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion > RedsZone > The Old Red Guard

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-22-2008, 01:29 PM   #1
Unassisted
RZ Chamber of Commerce
 
Unassisted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 13,222
Forbes: Reds worth $337M, Indians $417M, Yankees $1.31B

http://charlotte.bizjournals.com/col...21/daily8.html

Quote:
Forbes: Reds value pegged at $337M; Indians, $417M

The Cincinnati Reds and Cleveland Indians are worth upward of $300 million, according to a new Forbes magazine ranking, but that's not anywhere near top-of-the-line for Major League Baseball.
The Reds ranked 23rd out of 30 in valuation for Forbes' 2007 "The Business of Baseball" ranking. That accounts for a value of $337 million, up 10 percent from 2006, along with revenue of $161 million and operating income of $19.3 million.

The team's valuation is determined by the value of its current stadium deal without a deduction for debt.

By contrast, the Cleveland Indians ranked 15th with a valuation of $417 million, revenue of $181 million and operating income of $29.2 million.
The top-valued franchise, the New York Yankees, was pegged at $1.31 billion, up 9 percent from the year before. The lowest-ranked franchise for 2007 was the Florida Marlins, with a value of $256 million.

Other details on Ohio's two major-league teams, compared with the top-ranked Yankees:
  • Reds: player expenses, $86 million; gate receipts, $42 million; and average ticket price, $18.
  • Indians: player expenses, $82 million; gate receipts, $54 million; and average ticket price, $21.
  • Yankees: player expenses, $253 million; gate receipts, $171 million; and average ticket price, $29.
For more details on the Forbes baseball ranking, click here.
__________________
/r/reds
Unassisted is offline   Reply With Quote
Turn Off Ads?
Old 04-22-2008, 01:33 PM   #2
klw
Member
 
klw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New England
Posts: 4,296
Re: Forbes: Reds worth $337M, Indians $417M, Yankees $1.31B

Out of my price range.
klw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2008, 01:45 PM   #3
Jpup
Member
 
Jpup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Southern KY
Posts: 6,967
Re: Forbes: Reds worth $337M, Indians $417M, Yankees $1.31B

3 words:

Sell more tickets.
__________________
"My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton
Jpup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2008, 01:52 PM   #4
redsmetz
Redsmetz
 
redsmetz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Winton Place
Posts: 10,450
Re: Forbes: Reds worth $337M, Indians $417M, Yankees $1.31B

Quote:
Reds: player expenses, $86 million; gate receipts, $42 million; and average ticket price, $18.
Wow, the profit sharing of other revenues must be huge if the team can make up that sort of shortfall versus their payroll costs. Anybody have any idea about those numbers?
__________________
“In the same way that a baseball season never really begins, it never really ends either.” - Lonnie Wheeler, "Bleachers, A Summer in Wrigley Field"

The Baseball Emporium - Books & Things, that's Rallyonion.com

The Baseball Bookstore

http://tsc-sales.com/
http://tscsales.blogspot.com/
http://silverscreenbooks.com/
redsmetz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2008, 01:58 PM   #5
Joseph
Tired of talk. Win!
 
Joseph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,122
Re: Forbes: Reds worth $337M, Indians $417M, Yankees $1.31B

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpup View Post
3 words:

Sell more tickets.
Winning usually takes care of that.
__________________

Championships for MY teams in my lifetime:
Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90
Chicago Blackhawks - 10
University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12
Cincinnati Bengals - None
Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98
Joseph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2008, 02:03 PM   #6
Jpup
Member
 
Jpup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Southern KY
Posts: 6,967
Re: Forbes: Reds worth $337M, Indians $417M, Yankees $1.31B

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
Winning usually takes care of that.
that was my point.
__________________
"My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton
Jpup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2008, 08:20 PM   #7
REDREAD
Where's my chair?
 
REDREAD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 19,790
Re: Forbes: Reds worth $337M, Indians $417M, Yankees $1.31B

Quote:
Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
Wow, the profit sharing of other revenues must be huge if the team can make up that sort of shortfall versus their payroll costs. Anybody have any idea about those numbers?
Fairly recently they announced that all clubs were getting something like 30 million per year for all the online media stuff. That's in addition to the obscene amount of cash MLB makes on TV, and in addition to revenue sharing the Reds get.

Don't worry, they're turning a profit, despite what John Allen used to say
__________________
Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2012 AND 2013!

Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
REDREAD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2008, 08:29 PM   #8
*BaseClogger*
WOOOOO!!!
 
*BaseClogger*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Midland, MI
Posts: 6,077
Re: Forbes: Reds worth $337M, Indians $417M, Yankees $1.31B

Quote:
Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
That's in addition to the obscene amount of cash MLB makes on TV,
MLB doesn't make nearly as much as the NFL on their national TV deal with Fox, ESPN, and TBS. Most of the TV money for the Reds comes from it FSN, but other teams like the Yankees and Red Sox that have their own regional broadcast networks make MUCH more revenue...
__________________
"On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."
*BaseClogger* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2008, 03:37 PM   #9
redsrule2500
Member
 
redsrule2500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 3,112
Re: Forbes: Reds worth $337M, Indians $417M, Yankees $1.31B

Quote:
Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
MLB doesn't make nearly as much as the NFL on their national TV deal with Fox, ESPN, and TBS. Most of the TV money for the Reds comes from it FSN, but other teams like the Yankees and Red Sox that have their own regional broadcast networks make MUCH more revenue...
or the Indians with STO
__________________
redsrule2500
Go Reds!
Baseball Bliss
“I’m a normal guy blessed with the ability to hit a baseball.” - Sean Casey
redsrule2500 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!

RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball

Contact us: Boss | GIK | dabvu2498 | GADawg | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | mattfeet | MBZags | Plus Plus | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25