RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion  

Go Back   RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion > RedsZone > The Old Red Guard

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-27-2008, 05:24 PM   #1
Benihana
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,407
Trade Freel Now!

He is batting .318 after going 2-for-2 so far today. Please take advantage of this hot streak and move him NOW!
__________________
Go BLUE!!!
Benihana is offline   Reply With Quote
Turn Off Ads?
Old 04-27-2008, 07:14 PM   #2
kheidg-
Member
 
kheidg-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,678
Re: Trade Freel Now!

I may be in the minority here but I'd keep Freel as long as our alternatives are Hairston, Patterson, Hopper, etc.

He won't keep hitting .300 but I can see him around .275 with a .350 OBP playing adequate defense at multiple positions.
kheidg- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 07:32 PM   #3
mth123
The Big Dog
 
mth123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 12,672
Re: Trade Freel Now!

Quote:
Originally Posted by kheidg- View Post
I may be in the minority here but I'd keep Freel as long as our alternatives are Hairston, Patterson, Hopper, etc.

He won't keep hitting .300 but I can see him around .275 with a .350 OBP playing adequate defense at multiple positions.
Me too. If you can dump his contract and get a useful return ok, but no need for a purge. He's better than Hopper and probably better than Hairston. He and Patterson would make an adequate platoon IMO.
__________________
"All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS
mth123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 08:00 PM   #4
MartyFan
You're soaking in it!
 
MartyFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 3,334
Re: Trade Freel Now!

I'd say move him out...btw, Smoltz went down in his start for the Braves...Arroyo would look good in a Braves Uni.
__________________
"Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."
MartyFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 08:47 PM   #5
Benihana
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,407
Re: Trade Freel Now!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
Arroyo would look GREAT in a Braves Uni.
Fixed that for ya

Seriously though, I wonder what kind of return he might fetch this time around. What about that OF they drafted in the first round last year? Or maybe Brent Lillebridge and JoJo Reyes? Better yet, how about Yunel Escobar?

I'd try and let him string together a couple of decent starts before you move him however, as I wouldn't want to sell the bottom. Maybe package him with one of our pyrite prospects like Maloney, Szymanski or even Francisco. I also wonder if maybe he isn't hurt, or would at least be well served by a short DL-stint to let him regain strength in his arm. Just a thought.
__________________
Go BLUE!!!

Last edited by Benihana; 04-27-2008 at 08:53 PM.
Benihana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 08:49 PM   #6
MikeS21
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Ohio
Posts: 3,650
Re: Trade Freel Now!

I'd move Freel ASAP. These "super-sub" types who can play multiple positions are a dime a dozen and can be easily found, and you won't need to pay them $3-$4 million per year. In fact, when Gonzo comes back, the Reds will have one named Jeff Keppinger. Keppinger will pretty much stay in the lineup every day, spelling someone.
__________________
Opinions are like belly buttons. Everybody has one, and they don't want someone else's shoved into their face.
MikeS21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 09:24 PM   #7
GAC
What Me Worry?
 
GAC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Bellefontaine, Ohio
Posts: 26,416
Re: Trade Freel Now!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeS21 View Post
I'd move Freel ASAP. These "super-sub" types who can play multiple positions are a dime a dozen and can be easily found, and you won't need to pay them $3-$4 million per year.
True. But that is why it's gonna be extremely hard to move a Ryan Freel. Why trade for, and pay this guy 3 mil/yr when they are plentiful all over the place much cheaper?

Another extension WK shouldn't have done IMO.
__________________
"panic" only comes from having real expectations
GAC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 09:56 PM   #8
Unassisted
RZ Chamber of Commerce
 
Unassisted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 13,221
Re: Trade Freel Now!

Unless cash or valuable prospects go with him, the Reds will have to take on another team's albatross to make a Freel deal work.
__________________
/r/reds
Unassisted is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2008, 12:07 AM   #9
Kc61
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 10,823
Re: Trade Freel Now!

Freel had a sub-par and injured season in 2007, makes some mistakes on the bases, and is owed a lot of money.

But as a utility player I think he's very good. Plays a lot of positions decently and has the ability to go on hot streaks at the plate.

The Reds bench is currently two catchers, a first baseman, Freel and Hairston.

It would be a mistake to let Freel go. Keep him for this year.
Kc61 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2008, 12:19 AM   #10
fearofpopvol1
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 8,625
Re: Trade Freel Now!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
Freel had a sub-par and injured season in 2007, makes some mistakes on the bases, and is owed a lot of money.

But as a utility player I think he's very good. Plays a lot of positions decently and has the ability to go on hot streaks at the plate.

The Reds bench is currently two catchers, a first baseman, Freel and Hairston.

It would be a mistake to let Freel go. Keep him for this year.
Don't forget about Hopper!
fearofpopvol1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2008, 11:59 PM   #11
REDREAD
Where's my chair?
 
REDREAD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 19,781
Re: Trade Freel Now!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeS21 View Post
I'd move Freel ASAP. .
My thoughts exactly. Dump Freel for anything to the first bidder willing to absorb his salary.
I doubt such a team exists though.
__________________
Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2012 AND 2013!

Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
REDREAD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2008, 02:27 PM   #12
Benihana
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,407
Re: Trade Freel Now!

Here's an idea:

The Padres are looking for a CF, as Jim Edmonds is on his last leg. According to mlbtraderumors.com, they are also contemplating a fire sale, in which they'd attempt to dump almost every veteran on their team while retaining Gonzalez, Peavy and Young. What about a Freel-for-Randy Wolf swap? Their salaries are a wash, and each team fills a need. The Reds get a lefty to replace Cueto or Arroyo in the rotation in case either of them continues to struggle. I think it's clear at this point that Josh Fogg cannot be a viable option for the rotation on a team that intends to contend. Meanwhile, that buys Bailey more time to refine his stuff in AAA until the weather warms up. The Padres get a CF who can run and is now batting .320 on the year.
__________________
Go BLUE!!!
Benihana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2008, 02:29 PM   #13
Ltlabner
2009: Fail
 
Ltlabner's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 7,441
Re: Trade Freel Now!

Quote:
as Jim Edmonds is on his last leg....
Somewhere George Grande is seething with rage for such flippant disrespect.
__________________
a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

Last edited by Ltlabner; 04-30-2008 at 03:00 PM.
Ltlabner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2008, 02:34 PM   #14
NJReds
Member
 
NJReds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 5,408
Re: Trade Freel Now!

I think the Mets would be a good fit for Freel.

He'd get lots of time at 2nd base for Castillo, who can't play everyday with his bad knees. Freel could also spell Pagan and Church in the OF. He's a better option than Damian Easley, who the Mets are currently using as a utility man.
__________________
"The players make the manager, it's never the other way." - Sparky Anderson
NJReds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2008, 02:36 PM   #15
Benihana
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,407
Re: Trade Freel Now!

Quote:
Originally Posted by NJReds View Post
I think the Mets would be a good fit for Freel.

He'd get lots of time at 2nd base for Castillo, who can't play everyday with his bad knees. Freel could also spell Pagan and Church in the OF. He's a better option than Damian Easley, who the Mets are currently using as a utility man.
Freel and Hatteberg for Aaron Heilman? One can dream...
__________________
Go BLUE!!!
Benihana is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!

RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball

Contact us: Boss | GIK | dabvu2498 | GADawg | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | mattfeet | MBZags | Plus Plus | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25