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Old 04-28-2008, 03:37 PM   #1
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Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

Who would it be?

I haven't been here forever, but it seems like the ones that come up (or came up) the most are:

Chris Denorfia
Elizardo Ramirez
Wily Mo Pena
Ben Broussard
Austin Kearns

Who have I missed? Who would you rank highest?

I think the Lizard probably deserves the crown, based on what I've seen/read in the past.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:42 PM   #2
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Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

The Lizard and Denoforia are definitely a top contenders.

Oslwedo Fernandez was another one, predicted to be an ace by some, after a decent partial season.

Brandon Claussen was another "sure fire ace", despite coming off a major arm injury and being a very questionable prospect.

Rob Bell wasn't the most overrated, but he's probably between #10-20, as was Stynes.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:43 PM   #3
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Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

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Who would it be?

I haven't been here forever, but it seems like the ones that come up (or came up) the most are:

Chris Denorfia
Elizardo Ramirez
Wily Mo Pena
Ben Broussard
Austin Kearns

Who have I missed? Who would you rank highest?

I think the Lizard probably deserves the crown, based on what I've seen/read in the past.
I dunno. I think that list is accurate. More importantly, when Freel, Hopper, and Hatteberg leave, will they make the list?
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:44 PM   #4
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Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

Do minor leaguers count, because if they do Milton Loo needs a place on the list.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:44 PM   #5
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Juan Castro.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:48 PM   #6
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Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

Felipe Lopez, hands down, even more so that Kearns.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:49 PM   #7
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Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

Denorfia and Broussard are neck-in-neck as far as I'm concerned. I never understood the love affair with either, especially Deno. So far, history has proven me correct on Broussard, and I still think I'll be right on Deno.

Some ex-Reds personally overrated by me:

Russ Branyan
Bruce Chen
David Espinosa
Brandon Claussen
Corey Patterson??
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:52 PM   #8
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I dunno. I think that list is accurate. More importantly, when Freel, Hopper, and Hatteberg leave, will they make the list?
I don't think Hatteberg is on that list, he was a very good 1st baseman, but he's just being replaced by an even better one. I would think you have to be a disappointing player to make the list, at least the way I look at it.

Felipe Lopez was definitely overrated IMO. You can say what you want about Krivsky not listening to advisers about "the trade", but those advisers definitely overvalued Kearns and Lopez.

One player I really liked at the time was Alex Ochoa. He never really turned into anything, but he showed some power and had one of the best arms I have ever seen in person.

I also wasn't around Redszone at the time of Pokey Reese, but he seems to be a likely type of candidate.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:53 PM   #9
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Brandon Claussen was another "sure fire ace", despite coming off a major arm injury and being a very questionable prospect.
I was up in the booth for his debut. I couldn't stay the whole game (it was a day game) because I had to work, so I took advantage of the perk.

I bought into the hype
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:56 PM   #10
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Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

I overrate most of them because they're Reds.

My biggest miss was Lopez.

In my experience on the site Denorfia wins the grand prize.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:56 PM   #11
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I also wasn't around Redszone at the time of Pokey Reese, but he seems to be a likely type of candidate.
How could we forget Pokey, he of the website and all the hype that surrounded him. Good call.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:59 PM   #12
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Aaron Boone. Heart in my throat every time he threw the ball. Swung like a 40 HR guy, but actually was a 20 HR guy (max). Flipped the fans the bird. Loved by Redszone. See ya!
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Eric Milton....oh wait
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Old 04-28-2008, 04:02 PM   #15
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I found this site in August of 06' and I couldn't get over the incredible amount of love the site had for Chris Denorfia.
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