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Analysis of Arroyo Velocity and Release Point
Bronson Arroyo Pitch Speed
Last nights game against the Cardinals Looks like he was able to hit 90MPH on the radar consistantly and throughout the entire game. Even at pitch 112 it shows a 90 MPH fastball. Previous start April 23rd against the Astros As you can see on this chart he hits the 90's just a few times and only very early in the game. Of his last 30 or so pitches the fastest one hit 87 MPH Release Point Also, there is a small difference in his release point. Bronson usually will release his pitches from many different arm slots throughout the game. It looks like he did that much better against the Cardinals. vs. Cardinals vs. Astros If you look closely they are different. Against the Astros almost all of them are clustered in one area with another very small area consisting of just three pitches. However against the Cardinals he continued to change his release point both horizontally and vertically. Is release point one of the keys to Arroyo's success? vs. Brewers (4 Runs) vs. Phillies (5 Runs) He did keep his pitch velocity up better in the Phillies game than he did against the Astros. Still wasn't doing as well as he did against the Cardinals. Release point vs. D-Backs Speed vs. D-Backs Didn't have his speed or his release angle on either of those games. Just looking over all of his games pitched this year we notice these things.
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Re: Analysis of Arroyo Velocity and Release Point
Those charts hurt my brain.
I think it was because he "hit the pool". Much easier to correlate, IMO. PEACE -BLEEDS
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Re: Analysis of Arroyo Velocity and Release Point
I wouldn't be convinced until he pitches in the same ballpark twice.
The Reds Pitch F/X is very badly calibrated and will screw the results. Also Data has been shown to not be consistent from ballpark to ballpark. It's a great system, but it still needs to be fixed. It's also possibly the Cards system is misuncalibrated and gave bad results. Once I see a home start it should prove something has changed with speeds/slot assuming they don't fix it by then. |
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Re: Analysis of Arroyo Velocity and Release Point
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Thanks for the response. |
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Re: Analysis of Arroyo Velocity and Release Point
Sorry, but having about 2-3 swimming workouts in one week is not going to increase his velocity or do anything. Maybe in 2-3 months, yea. Mental boost is the only thing it could have done to him.
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Re: Analysis of Arroyo Velocity and Release Point
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From a biophysical standpoint, swimming 2-3 times in one week could very easily have this effect on Arroyo's velocity. |
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Re: Analysis of Arroyo Velocity and Release Point
Are you kidding me? You think running a couple miles and doing a few workouts drastically increases something from a physical standpoint......it takes numerous workouts.
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Re: Analysis of Arroyo Velocity and Release Point
Here are the release points from Arroyo during today's game.
Once again, everything was coming just about the same vertical release point. Which has been consistent with every single bad outing he has had this year. He was only able to get about 90 MPH about 5 or 6 times, although the pitch count was only 47. |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Re: Analysis of Arroyo Velocity and Release Point
I'm beginning to wonder if it's an effort thing. He just never looks to give any effort, and in years past that was a plus in my mind. This year, it just tells me that he's capable of throwing harder, but doesn't.
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