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Benihana · 05-07-2008, 04:16 PM

The Reds now have three pitchers in the Top 10 in Strikeouts for all of baseball, including #1 (Volquez) and #2 (Harang) on the list. Just sayin'

BuckeyeRedleg · 05-07-2008, 04:18 PM

If they could get Arroyo back to 2006 form and the offense just to be average, they could win a few this year, even with the slow start.

Knock on wood for everyone to stay healthy and for Homer to continue progressing in AAA.

RedsManRick · 05-07-2008, 04:23 PM

Sometimes the best way to address a poor defense is to get pitchers who don't need a good one.

kaldaniels · 05-07-2008, 04:29 PM

If not for Kentucky's own Brandon Webb (7 wins)...Volquez (Reds have been shut out in 2 of his starts) would be leading all triple crown categories.

lollipopcurve · 05-07-2008, 04:30 PM

Krivsky had no idea how to build a staff, I guess.

RedEye · 05-07-2008, 04:31 PM

I wonder whether we might see the opposite effect this year as in years past. Perhaps the starting pitching will lead the Reds back into contention during the dog days of summer (instead of collapsing and throwing them back to the wolves after a fast start).

A guy can hope.

Highlifeman21 · 05-07-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lollipopcurve

Krivsky had no idea how to build a staff, I guess.

The offense is what suffered most during the Krivsky Era.

But then again, Arroyo and Volquez were the only two additions to the staff acquired by Krivsky. The rest were already here.

dougdirt · 05-07-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Highlifeman21

The offense is what suffered most during the Krivsky Era.

But then again, Arroyo and Volquez were the only two additions to the staff acquired by Krivsky. The rest were already here.

He kept Harang and Cueto here though.... and that plays into the equation.

Highlifeman21 · 05-07-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

He kept Harang and Cueto here though.... and that plays into the equation.

I'm not sure how keeping guys factors into the equation. He knew what he had in Harang, and going under the assumption that Oakland wanted Cueto in a deal for Haren, that told Krivsky what he potentially had in Cueto.

PuffyPig · 05-07-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Highlifeman21

He knew what he had in Harang, and going under the assumption that Oakland wanted Cueto in a deal for Haren, that told Krivsky what he potentially had in Cueto.

I think Krivsky knew what he had in Cueto.

Reds1 · 05-07-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Highlifeman21

I'm not sure how keeping guys factors into the equation. He knew what he had in Harang, and going under the assumption that Oakland wanted Cueto in a deal for Haren, that told Krivsky what he potentially had in Cueto.

He did still get him signed to a reds favorable 4 yr deal though. Now Arroyo hasn't quit worked out, but just saying. Nice game today. So glad we kept Votto. There were so many rumors. Josh Hamilton who????

Highlifeman21 · 05-07-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

I think Krivsky knew what he had in Cueto.

I think you're right.

If Krivsky didn't remotely know what he had in Cueto, Cueto might play for the A's right now.

If Krivsky was on the fence about Cueto, the A's asking for Cueto in a deal for Haren most likely made up his mind.

Regardless, IIRC Cueto was here before Krivsky, like 2 years before Krivsky.

HumnHilghtFreel · 05-07-2008, 04:51 PM

I thought I accidentally wandered into a Klan meeting for a second.

The pitching has been a lovely surprise though. If only they had a matching offense. Volquez, or as I like to call him- Voltron, is amazing out there right now. I don't like the walks, but when you can K a batter per inning to make up for it, it's not horrible.

oregonred · 05-07-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RedEye

I wonder whether we might see the opposite effect this year as in years past. Perhaps the starting pitching will lead the Reds back into contention during the dog days of summer (instead of collapsing and throwing them back to the wolves after a fast start).

A guy can hope.

You got it man. That's what having studs does for you late in the year. When you've got guns at #1-#3 you can climb out of a lot of pre-AS game funks. Remember how the A's/Braves seemed to pull away every year when they had their version of the Big Three. I think we'll see a nice run sometime this season with too many flaws on offense and Cueto/Volquez first full year preventing any real contention, but 2009-2012 looks very promising for the favorable dog days pattern to take hold.

reds44 · 05-07-2008, 04:57 PM

It's easier to fix offense than it is pitching. With the free money we have in the offeason, the Reds could be contenders snext year, IMO.

05-07-2008, 04:29 PM	#4
kaldaniels Viva la Rolen Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,409	Re: Strikeout KKKKings If not for Kentucky's own Brandon Webb (7 wins)...Volquez (Reds have been shut out in 2 of his starts) would be leading all triple crown categories.

05-07-2008, 04:30 PM	#5
lollipopcurve Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shelburne Falls, MA Posts: 9,584	Re: Strikeout KKKKings Krivsky had no idea how to build a staff, I guess. __________________ "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

05-07-2008, 04:31 PM	#6
RedEye Ojo Rojo Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Moving to Atlanta in July Posts: 5,051	Re: Strikeout KKKKings I wonder whether we might see the opposite effect this year as in years past. Perhaps the starting pitching will lead the Reds back into contention during the dog days of summer (instead of collapsing and throwing them back to the wolves after a fast start). A guy can hope.

05-07-2008, 04:51 PM	#13
HumnHilghtFreel Manliness Personified Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,690	Re: Strikeout KKKKings I thought I accidentally wandered into a Klan meeting for a second. The pitching has been a lovely surprise though. If only they had a matching offense. Volquez, or as I like to call him- Voltron, is amazing out there right now. I don't like the walks, but when you can K a batter per inning to make up for it, it's not horrible.

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05-07-2008, 04:16 PM	#1
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,665	Strikeout KKKKings The Reds now have three pitchers in the Top 10 in Strikeouts for all of baseball, including #1 (Volquez) and #2 (Harang) on the list. Just sayin' __________________ Go BLUE!!!

05-07-2008, 04:18 PM	#2
BuckeyeRedleg Will post for food Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dublin, OH Posts: 5,127	Re: Strikeout KKKKings If they could get Arroyo back to 2006 form and the offense just to be average, they could win a few this year, even with the slow start. Knock on wood for everyone to stay healthy and for Homer to continue progressing in AAA.

05-07-2008, 04:23 PM	#3
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,988	Re: Strikeout KKKKings Sometimes the best way to address a poor defense is to get pitchers who don't need a good one. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.