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OnBaseMachine · 05-16-2008, 04:14 PM

Aaron Crow, though they report rumors of Casey Kelly to the Reds. Kelly wouldn't be the worst pick in the world but I'd be pretty upset if the Reds selected Kelly over Alvarez, the two Beckhams, Crow, Matusz, Posey, or Smoak. They have Gordon Beckham going No. 8 overall to the White Sox.

7. REDS. When Crow put together a 43-inning scoreless streak early in the season, he looked like the top candidate to go No. 1, and Cincinnati would be thrilled if he somehow made it this far. One rumor that won't die pairs the Reds with Florida high school righthander/shortstop/quarterback Casey Kelly, who would be a bit of a reach. Casey's father Pat manages the organization's Rookie-level Gulf Coast League affiliate.

Projected Pick: AARON CROW.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...08/266117.html

*BaseClogger* · 05-16-2008, 04:20 PM

college pitcher with top-top stuff? Sounds good to me...

dougdirt · 05-16-2008, 04:22 PM

Gross. I want nothing to do with Crow this early in the draft.

*BaseClogger* · 05-16-2008, 04:23 PM

is there more to Crow, such as mechanics or really bad control?

OnBaseMachine · 05-16-2008, 04:26 PM

I'll be pretty pumped up if the Reds draft Crow. His health risk is no worse than Lincecum's was a couple years ago IMO. His stuff is compared to A.J. Burnett. I'll definitely take that. He could probably reach the majors within two seasons and give the Reds a future rotation of Volquez, Harang, Cueto, Crow, and Homer Bailey/Daryl Thompson.

dougdirt · 05-16-2008, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine

I'll be pretty pumped up if the Reds draft Crow. His health risk is no worse than Lincecum's was a couple years ago IMO. His stuff is compared to A.J. Burnett. I'll definitely take that. He could probably reach the majors within two seasons and give the Reds a future rotation of Volquez, Harang, Cueto, Crow, and Homer Bailey/Daryl Thompson.

Lincecum had funky mechanics and a small size. Crow has bad mechanics. The difference between the two is pretty substantial associated between the risk, at least in my opinion.

OesterPoster · 05-16-2008, 04:44 PM

I'm not an expert, but watching video of Crow's throwing motion makes my arm hurt. I don't know how he gets his throwing elbow so high, then curls the ball around his wrist in his throwing motion.

It hurts me to watch it, but I also have a shoulder which clicks and pops.

cincyinco · 05-16-2008, 04:52 PM

Doug, what about his mechanics is bad?

Because I dont really see too much of an issue, other tahn what Oester pointed out above, with the curling the ball around his wrist...

Couldn't something like that be "fixed"? And if not, what kind of undo stress does that put on the arm? I'm not so sure its a dealbreaker for me on Crowe.

LoganBuck · 05-16-2008, 04:55 PM

Aaron Crow's mechanics broken down. It is a little scary.

http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/03...wmechanalysis/

dougdirt · 05-16-2008, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cincyinco

Doug, what about his mechanics is bad?

Because I dont really see too much of an issue, other tahn what Oester pointed out above, with the curling the ball around his wrist...

Couldn't something like that be "fixed"? And if not, what kind of undo stress does that put on the arm? I'm not so sure its a dealbreaker for me on Crowe.

As he loads to come toward the plate, his pitching elbow gets way too high for my liking. Whenever your shoulder is lower than your elbow, its a big reg flag to me. Top that off with the wrist thing and thats two red flags in his mechanics. I am not a fan of having to remake a first round pick's mechanics.... be it with his swing or his throwing. Considering that its in the top 10, I would certainly stay away.

icehole3 · 05-16-2008, 06:20 PM

I know this is a little off topic, but do you think Cueto has good mechanics???

dougdirt · 05-16-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehole3

I know this is a little off topic, but do you think Cueto has good mechanics???

He doesn't do anything that worries me so much in terms of an injury.

klw · 05-16-2008, 09:53 PM

the cocked wrist reminds me of Rick Sutcliffe. He looked stiff in the shoulders when throwing in the bullpen video.

edabbs44 · 05-16-2008, 10:04 PM

Prior had "perfect" mechanics when he came out and Lincecum was a risk.

Youi never know.

dougdirt · 05-16-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edabbs44

Prior had "perfect" mechanics when he came out and Lincecum was a risk.

Youi never know.

Except Priors mechanics weren't perfect, he just repeated them perfect.

05-16-2008, 04:14 PM	#1
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,655	Baseball America's first mock draft has Reds selecting... Aaron Crow, though they report rumors of Casey Kelly to the Reds. Kelly wouldn't be the worst pick in the world but I'd be pretty upset if the Reds selected Kelly over Alvarez, the two Beckhams, Crow, Matusz, Posey, or Smoak. They have Gordon Beckham going No. 8 overall to the White Sox. 7. REDS. When Crow put together a 43-inning scoreless streak early in the season, he looked like the top candidate to go No. 1, and Cincinnati would be thrilled if he somehow made it this far. One rumor that won't die pairs the Reds with Florida high school righthander/shortstop/quarterback Casey Kelly, who would be a bit of a reach. Casey's father Pat manages the organization's Rookie-level Gulf Coast League affiliate. Projected Pick: AARON CROW. http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...08/266117.html

05-16-2008, 04:20 PM	#2
BaseClogger WOOOOO!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 6,077	Re: Baseball America's first mock draft has Reds selecting... college pitcher with top-top stuff? Sounds good to me... __________________ "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

05-16-2008, 04:22 PM	#3
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,727	Re: Baseball America's first mock draft has Reds selecting... Gross. I want nothing to do with Crow this early in the draft. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

05-16-2008, 04:23 PM	#4
BaseClogger WOOOOO!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 6,077	Re: Baseball America's first mock draft has Reds selecting... is there more to Crow, such as mechanics or really bad control? __________________ "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

05-16-2008, 04:26 PM	#5
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,655	Re: Baseball America's first mock draft has Reds selecting... I'll be pretty pumped up if the Reds draft Crow. His health risk is no worse than Lincecum's was a couple years ago IMO. His stuff is compared to A.J. Burnett. I'll definitely take that. He could probably reach the majors within two seasons and give the Reds a future rotation of Volquez, Harang, Cueto, Crow, and Homer Bailey/Daryl Thompson.

05-16-2008, 04:44 PM	#7
OesterPoster Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West-central Ohio Posts: 1,911	Re: Baseball America's first mock draft has Reds selecting... I'm not an expert, but watching video of Crow's throwing motion makes my arm hurt. I don't know how he gets his throwing elbow so high, then curls the ball around his wrist in his throwing motion. It hurts me to watch it, but I also have a shoulder which clicks and pops.

05-16-2008, 04:52 PM	#8
cincyinco We are the angry mob Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The 303 Posts: 2,479	Re: Baseball America's first mock draft has Reds selecting... Doug, what about his mechanics is bad? Because I dont really see too much of an issue, other tahn what Oester pointed out above, with the curling the ball around his wrist... Couldn't something like that be "fixed"? And if not, what kind of undo stress does that put on the arm? I'm not so sure its a dealbreaker for me on Crowe. __________________ "I hate to advocate chemicals, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone... But they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson

05-16-2008, 04:55 PM	#9
LoganBuck I hate the Cubs Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,584	Re: Baseball America's first mock draft has Reds selecting... Aaron Crow's mechanics broken down. It is a little scary. http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/03...wmechanalysis/ __________________ Whenever you get mad over a called strike or ball on a close pitch, it's the equivalent of being mad at the QB pump-faking one time before throwing a pass in your average NFL game. ---Caveat Emperor

05-16-2008, 06:20 PM	#11
icehole3 Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 3,027	Re: Baseball America's first mock draft has Reds selecting... I know this is a little off topic, but do you think Cueto has good mechanics???

05-16-2008, 09:53 PM	#13
klw Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New England Posts: 4,307	Re: Baseball America's first mock draft has Reds selecting... the cocked wrist reminds me of Rick Sutcliffe. He looked stiff in the shoulders when throwing in the bullpen video.

05-16-2008, 10:04 PM	#14
edabbs44 Box of Frogs Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 15,820	Re: Baseball America's first mock draft has Reds selecting... Prior had "perfect" mechanics when he came out and Lincecum was a risk. Youi never know.

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