It's time to go on record, ya'll...

[Kingspoint]

Originally Posted by M2

Yet here's the question. Choose between these two hitters:

Player A - .397/.505/.781
Player B - .370/.536/.767

It would seem to me both are big power, very good plate discipline players. Yet one plays SS (and just got listed as being the 3rd best collegiate athlete in the draft) and the other plays 1B.

Take the athlete (the SS).

[Mario-Rijo]

Originally Posted by Ben

With a little more than 24 hours left until the MLB Draft opens at 2pm tomorrow, we need to go on record with our picks for the Reds at #7. I'm going to divide it up into 4 categories:

1.) I'm getting/drinking a 12 pack of 'Nati Light to celebrate (Your top guy)...
2.) I'll light a cigar in celebration (good pick)...
3.) Yawn, whatever (Eh, it's okay)...
4.) WTF! :thumbdown (hate it)...

Mine are as follows:

1.) Brian Matusz-He'll be in the MLB rotation quickly and will be a good #4 behind Volquez, Cueto and Harang
2.) Gordan Beckham-SS of the future, likely a quick mover
3.) Yonder Alonso-Not that I don't like his bat but it likely means that Dunn is a goner
4.) Casey Kelly-Sorry, his bat isn't good enough.

Let's have some fun with this

I like the way you have set this up Ben so I'll play along. I also like how BRL did it so I'll follow his lead as there are multiple people at each of these spots.

(In order of preference from L-R)
Nati Light - Tim Beckham, Brian Matusz, Gordon Beckham
Cigar - Alvarez, Posey, Smoak
Eh, it's ok (But not my pref)-Alonso, Hosmer, Crow, Skipworth, Hunt, Lawrie
WTF - Anyone Else

[Grande Donkey]

Nati Light doesn't sound like much of a celebration. More like a punishment.

[HBP]

I don't think Matusz, T Beckham, or Posey will be there at #7.

So it will come down to Crow, G Beckham, and Alonso with Crow being the pick.
I wouldn't be disappointed with any of those.

[Mario-Rijo]

Originally Posted by HBP

I don't think Matusz, T Beckham, or Posey will be there at #7.

So it will come down to Crow, G Beckham, and Alonso with Crow being the pick.
I wouldn't be disappointed with any of those.

I liked Crow more until I looked further into his mechanics. This kid just doesn't have one bad mechanical issue but 2 which doubles his chances of elbow/shoulder issues. The dreader inverted W and a wrist hook at the beginning of his delivery.

His stats are not all that impressive either 3+ era, nearly 3 BB's per 9 and less than 7 K's per nine. The era and BB's aren't too bothersome until you couple them with a lack of K's. If I am going to take a kid in the top 10 he better be dominating college hitters for the most part. I just don't know that he's worth the risk.

[AdamDunn]

Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo

I liked Crow more until I looked further into his mechanics. This kid just doesn't have one bad mechanical issue but 2 which doubles his chances of elbow/shoulder issues. The dreader inverted W and a wrist hook at the beginning of his delivery.

His stats are not all that impressive either 3+ era, nearly 3 BB's per 9 and less than 7 K's per nine. The era and BB's aren't too bothersome until you couple them with a lack of K's. If I am going to take a kid in the top 10 he better be dominating college hitters for the most part. I just don't know that he's worth the risk.

Can someone describe the wrist hook problem for me?

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by AdamDunn

Can someone describe the wrist hook problem for me?

http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/03...wmechanalysis/

Go check out that link. It breaks down the wrist issue fairly well. Frankie and Kiley do good work, but they don't seem so concerned with the elbow thing like others are. I on the other hand am concerned by it.

[Grande Donkey]

1- Matusz, G Beckham
2- Lawrie, Alonso, Smoak
3- Crow
4- Kelly

[M2]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg

What scares me about Beckham is what if he's just having a flukey year (Brandon Larson)? He's pretty much come out of nowhere this year.

I'd worry about that more if Beckham hadn't also gone off like a madman in the Cape League last summer (with a wood bat).

[BuckeyeRedleg]

Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo

I liked Crow more until I looked further into his mechanics. This kid just doesn't have one bad mechanical issue but 2 which doubles his chances of elbow/shoulder issues. The dreader inverted W and a wrist hook at the beginning of his delivery.

His stats are not all that impressive either 3+ era, nearly 3 BB's per 9 and less than 7 K's per nine. The era and BB's aren't too bothersome until you couple them with a lack of K's. If I am going to take a kid in the top 10 he better be dominating college hitters for the most part. I just don't know that he's worth the risk.

Crow has 127 K's in 107.1 IP and his ERA is 2.35.

http://mutigers.cstv.com/sports/m-ba.../teamcume.html

[Scrap Irony]

I'd jump for joy with a pick of Smoak. Best power bat, second-best BA bat, and plate discipline. A plus glove at first, too. And, best of all, a switch hitter.

I'm warming up to Lawrie, as I think his bat has a chance to be special. It's his glove that's questionable. (He's Frazier three years younger and at catcher.)

Gordon Bekham wouldn't be a bad pick, but I get shivers when I think of SEC SS's drafted in the first round by Cincinnati.

Both Crow and Matsutz are defensible picks, but neither is a sure-fire star either. Shrug.

I'd do cartwheels if Posey were available, too. Love me some top-end catchers. Hardest thing to find in all of baseball. Except, apparently, in Texas.

As for the third round, I hope and pray Lenny Dykstra's boy is still available. The Tack would be awesome to root for.

[LoganBuck]

I don't have much of a preference on the top pick this year any of the top ranked talent would be fine. I don't want a reach. Not a fan of Crow.

One Question: What kind of injury did Tanner Scheppers actually suffer? Is his career in jeopardy, or is he a third round draft pick type of guy?

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by LoganBuck

I don't have much of a preference on the top pick this year any of the top ranked talent would be fine. I don't want a reach. Not a fan of Crow.

One Question: What kind of injury did Tanner Scheppers actually suffer? Is his career in jeopardy, or is he a third round draft pick type of guy?

Scheppers had a stress fracture near his shoulder. Some speculation it could be something more serious that they are trying to hide to keep him from losing out big time.

[Blitz Dorsey]

1. Matusz

2. Crow

3. Beckham

4. Smoak (would be higher but we already have our 1B of the future with Votto... do we really want to burn the No. 7 overall pick on another 1B? We're obviously not an AL team that can play both of them using the DH)

[LoganBuck]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Scheppers had a stress fracture near his shoulder. Some speculation it could be something more serious that they are trying to hide to keep him from losing out big time.

I have read some stuff on him that doesn't seem so bad, but then I see things that are writing him off. Who do you believe?