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Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008
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08-31-2008, 08:44 PM
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Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008
Anyone think with Votto's recent surge he has a shot against the medie darling Cubs' Soto?
Soto's overall numbers do look better as of now (especially when you consider he's a catcher), but with a really great September, I wonder if Votto might be able to make a run. |
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08-31-2008, 08:50 PM
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Soto is a lock to win it. Votto could hit 30 homeruns and OPS .900 and Soto would win it because he plays for the first place Cubs.
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08-31-2008, 08:59 PM
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Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008
Soto has to be a lock
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08-31-2008, 09:04 PM
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The real injustice would be if Votto won it because his team was higher in the standings....
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08-31-2008, 09:07 PM
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Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008
FWIW, I think Soto deserves the award. I'm just saying if Votto had the same numbers as a rookie from a first place team, regardless of position, the award would probably go to the guy on the better team.
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08-31-2008, 11:06 PM
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Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008
Unanimous for Soto. This was discussable in June. Not now.
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09-01-2008, 03:05 AM
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Votto's made a nice case, but Soto...the Cub...sadly, has the numbers, and should get it.
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09-01-2008, 09:33 AM
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Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008
I think Hal Morris should win it instead of David Justice.
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09-01-2008, 09:48 AM
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Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008
I think the AL race has gotten a little more interesting, with Longoria out of action and the Rays just rolling along without him like he was never there.
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09-01-2008, 12:38 PM
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1. Longoria, TAM 2. Galarraga, DET 3. Chamerlain, NYY 4. Aviles, KC 5. Ziegler, OAK I'm imagine Ellsbury and Alexi Ramirez will finish in the top 5 along side the first 3 I've listed and Galarraga will probably be 4th or 5th.
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09-01-2008, 12:39 PM
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Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008
Longoria should have the AL Rookie of the Year award locked up IMO.
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09-01-2008, 01:13 PM
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