That Trio of Outfielders in Chattanooga....

[Kingspoint]

Unfortunately, none of them are Centerfielders, but that's OK. You can't have enough good hitters.

LH Shaun Cumberland Age 23; 251 AB's .303/.393/.474/.867

LH Daniel Dorn Age 23; 152 AB's .263/.365/.487/.852

RH Sean Henry Age 22; 222 AB's .306/.380/.477/.857


And don't forget that 1B Yonder Alonso should catch these guys by the end of next year in AAA, making the REDS having to make a decision on whether to play him in the Outfield for Joey Votto in the Outfield.

[Kingspoint]

We have way too many quality players to take Adam Dunn's place to even consider keeping Adam Dunn around. He needs to be traded for whatever the team can get for him.

It makes no sense to pay Dunn $15M per year when he'll likely have seasons that are worse than the best of the Outfielders that will potentially replace him at 1/20th the cost.

Baseball Tonight just said that there aren't likely too many teams interested in Adam Dunn as there are Major League scouts that think that Dunn's bat speed is getting worse.

Dunn's trade value is not likely to be any better than it is now, but because he's going to be a free-agent anyway at the end of the year, maybe we should just keep Dunn, let him walk and get the draft picks. Personally, I'd rather trade for a AA or AAA Centerfielder or Catcher.

[JaxRed]

Cumberland is a CF

[Kingspoint]

Cumberland is a CF

But, that's not where they've been playing him this year the most.

That's good, though, as it's nice to have guys who may not be pure Centerfielders, but can play it decently enough.


Here's Cumberland's games:

RF-44, CF-28, LF-4

[Kingspoint]

Cody Strait....CF-31, LF-23, RF-15, DH-1

B. J. Sysmanski....CF-32, RF-14

[crazyredfan40]

Dorn has been struggling so far this year...Would like to see him get hot...

[BEETTLEBUG]

Cody Strait is a Royal now.

[Kingspoint]

Cody Strait is a Royal now.

So, then I assume that Cumberland is getting his starts in CF?

[Spring~Fields]

Unfortunately, none of them are Centerfielders, but that's OK. You can't have enough good hitters.

LH Shaun Cumberland Age 23; 251 AB's .303/.393/.474/.867

LH Daniel Dorn Age 23; 152 AB's .263/.365/.487/.852

RH Sean Henry Age 22; 222 AB's .306/.380/.477/.857


And don't forget that 1B Yonder Alonso should catch these guys by the end of next year in AAA, making the REDS having to make a decision on whether to play him in the Outfield for Joey Votto in the Outfield.

I was reviewing the AA players also today, and I was rather impressed with the number of players and what seems to be very good progress in them.

[dougdirt]

Dorn has been struggling so far this year...Would like to see him get hot...

Thats not even close to true. Dorn struggled in April, went on the DL with a cut when he needed 18 stitches in his leg. Since he came back in mid May he has an OPS over .880. He has 20 XBH in his last 135 at bats.

[Screwball]

We have way too many quality players to take Adam Dunn's place to even consider keeping Adam Dunn around. He needs to be traded for whatever the team can get for him.

It makes no sense to pay Dunn $15M per year when he'll likely have seasons that are worse than the best of the Outfielders that will potentially replace him at 1/20th the cost.

So these players you speak of can't even OPS above .870 against AA pitching, yet will somehow replace Dunn's .900+ OPS once they reach the Majors? Right.

It makes plenty of sense to pay Dunn market value (or a tad more) when he's probably the best offensive player on the team. I guess it's gonna take Dunn being in another city getting on base 40% of the time and slugging about .550 against the Reds before fans realize how much production he actually brings to this offense.

You think the Reds have trouble scoring runs now? Just try and replace Dunn with Sean Henry and see where it gets you.

[dougdirt]

So these players you speak of can't even OPS above .870 against AA pitching, yet will somehow replace Dunn's .900+ OPS once they reach the Majors? Right.

It makes plenty of sense to pay Dunn market value (or a tad more) when he's probably the best offensive player on the team. I guess it's gonna take Dunn being in another city getting on base 40% of the time and slugging about .550 against the Reds before fans realize how much production he actually brings to this offense.

You think the Reds have trouble scoring runs now? Just try and replace Dunn with Sean Henry and see where it gets you.

They don't have to replace Dunn's .900 OPS, they have to replace some of it, then replace his defense and use the 15 million they will save on not having Dunn and spend it elsewhere to help make the team better as well.

[Screwball]

They don't have to replace Dunn's .900 OPS, they have to replace some of it, then replace his defense and use the 15 million they will save on not having Dunn and spend it elsewhere to help make the team better as well.

They better be chasing down every fly ball that goes to left to even the gap between their offensive productions.

Although you do have a point with the $15 million being spent elsewhere. However, unless we were to land Mark Teixeira or somebody of that caliber, then the team would almost certainly regress.

[dougdirt]

They better be chasing down every fly ball that goes to left to even the gap between their offensive productions.

Although you do have a point with the $15 million being spent elsewhere. However, unless we were to land Mark Teixeira or somebody of that caliber, then the team would almost certainly regress.

I don't think they will 'even the gap' with their defense, but with the extra money they would save if they go that route would be something that could indeed make the team better overall if they chose to go that route.

[_Sir_Charles_]

They better be chasing down every fly ball that goes to left to even the gap between their offensive productions.

Although you do have a point with the $15 million being spent elsewhere. However, unless we were to land Mark Teixeira or somebody of that caliber, then the team would almost certainly regress.

I'm not so sure about that. Remember that we'd also have one more year under the belts of both Votto and Bruce. Junior's black hole in the lineup will also most likely be gone. Thier replacements don't have to duplicate their power numbers. They just have to get on base at a nice clip. Hitters who hit for average are what we should be looking for. In our ballpark you don't have to hit the ball a country mile like Dunn does. Average power is enough...as long as that's coupled with some solid contact.