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red-in-la · 07-26-2008, 05:34 PM

I know this is going to soumd a little nuts, but I had this trade idea whilst watching the Cubs game.

Reds trade: Adam Dunn, Homer Bailey, David Weathers and CoCo Cordero

Cubs trade: Sean Marshall and type A prospect.

I know there are probably hundreds of arguments against this, but I see the Cubs beginning to falter without Kerry Wood.

I think the Reds could make either Jared Burton or Josh Roenicke a closer next year.

The Reds use the saved moeny from Cordero and Dunn to sign a couple of FA outfielders and a high end pitcher.

Falls City Beer · 07-26-2008, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-in-la

I know this is going to soumd a little nuts, but I had this trade idea whilst watching the Cubs game.

Reds trade: Adam Dunn, Homer Bailey, David Weathers and CoCo Cordero

Cubs trade: Sean Marshall and type A prospect.

I know there are probably hundreds of arguments against this, but I see the Cubs beginning to falter without Kerry Wood.

I think the Reds could make either Jared Burton or Josh Roenicke a closer next year.

The Reds use the saved moeny from Cordero and Dunn to sign a couple of FA outfielders and a high end pitcher.

I'd do a Cordero for Marshall deal in a heartbeat.

BCubb2003 · 07-26-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by red-in-la

whilst watching the Cubs game.

There's your problem.

redsmetz · 07-26-2008, 05:51 PM

Not even the Pirates would make that trade! Why, oh why, do folks here decide it's a good thing to give away bunches of players for little return?

BoydsOfSummer · 07-26-2008, 05:54 PM

It's very possible that Carlos Marmol is a better closer than Kerry Wood. That dude is freak-nasty on righties especially.

CTA513 · 07-26-2008, 06:15 PM

The Reds would just be giving away players and I would rather not give away a young pitcher like Bailey.

Rojo · 07-26-2008, 06:19 PM

So you'd short the pen to add more to the back end of the rotation. No thanks.

klw · 07-26-2008, 06:34 PM

Have a look at the list of free agent outfielders and find two worth signing, let us know who you want, how much you pay them and for how long and then we can evaluate better. I think you will be hard pressed to find two worth going after in the next crop.

Hooligan · 07-26-2008, 06:39 PM

Worst trade idea ever. Take a break from watching the shrubs.

cincinnati chili · 07-26-2008, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-in-la

I know this is going to soumd a little nuts, but I had this trade idea whilst watching the Cubs game.

Reds trade: Adam Dunn, Homer Bailey, David Weathers and CoCo Cordero

Cubs trade: Sean Marshall and type A prospect.

You're fired as GM.

I'll diagram the six commodities in that trade:

Reds best offensive player and possible future hall of famer +
Overhyped but at least "B" level prospect +
Crap +
Overpaid but solid major league closer under K for three more years.

for

'B' level prospect +
A level prospect

So if you remove the 'B' level prospects and the crap from both sides of the equation you get this:

Adam Dunn and Francisco Cordero for an 'A' level prospect.

Unless that 'A' level prospect is the next Willie Mays, I'm not interested.

red-in-la · 07-26-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hooligan

Worst trade idea ever. Take a break from watching the shrubs.

Maybe they need a warning label on the bottom of their broadcast.

Homer Bailey · 07-26-2008, 07:33 PM

For the 80th time... Cordero has a full no trade clause!!!!!!!

Spitball · 07-26-2008, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klw

Have a look at the list of free agent outfielders and find two worth signing, let us know who you want, how much you pay them and for how long and then we can evaluate better. I think you will be hard pressed to find two worth going after in the next crop.

Good free agent outfielders, and often not so good outfielders, get signed to high priced long term contracts...and they often seem to go into decline shortly afterward.

klw · 07-26-2008, 07:41 PM

Here is the 2008-9 free agent outfielder class. * means there is an option

Bobby Abreu NYY
Moises Alou NYM
Garret Anderson * LAA
Rocco Baldelli TB
Willie Bloomquist SEA
Emil Brown OAK
Pat Burrell PHI
Endy Chavez NYM
Carl Crawford * TB
Adam Dunn CIN
Jim Edmonds CHC
Juan Encarnacion STL
Cliff Floyd TB
Brian Giles * SD
Ken Griffey Jr. * CIN
Vladimir Guerrero * LAA
Raul Ibanez SEA
Jacque Jones DET
Mark Kotsay ATL
Rob Mackowiak WAS
Kevin Mench TEX
Jason Michaels * CLE
Craig Monroe MIN
Jay Payton BAL
Scott Podsednik COL
Manny Ramirez * BOS
Juan Rivera LAA
Rondell White MIN

red-in-la · 07-26-2008, 08:05 PM

What about Mench to play LF and take a flyer on Encarnacion* to backup CF. I am still convinced that Hairston can play a decent enough CF to play most of the time.

*Assuming Encarnacion can still play

07-26-2008, 05:34 PM	#1
red-in-la Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Santa Paula, CA Posts: 6,536	Out-of-left-field trade idea..... I know this is going to soumd a little nuts, but I had this trade idea whilst watching the Cubs game. Reds trade: Adam Dunn, Homer Bailey, David Weathers and CoCo Cordero Cubs trade: Sean Marshall and type A prospect. I know there are probably hundreds of arguments against this, but I see the Cubs beginning to falter without Kerry Wood. I think the Reds could make either Jared Burton or Josh Roenicke a closer next year. The Reds use the saved moeny from Cordero and Dunn to sign a couple of FA outfielders and a high end pitcher. __________________ "Is there a problem officers?"

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BoydsOfSummer So Long Uncle Joe Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hamilton,Ohio Posts: 3,849	Re: Out-of-left-field trade idea..... It's very possible that Carlos Marmol is a better closer than Kerry Wood. That dude is freak-nasty on righties especially. __________________ 0 Value Over Replacement Poster "Sit over here next to Johnathan (Bench)...sit right here, he's smart."--Sparky Anderson

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CTA513 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10,702	Re: Out-of-left-field trade idea..... The Reds would just be giving away players and I would rather not give away a young pitcher like Bailey.

07-26-2008, 06:19 PM	#7
Rojo Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Bush Leagues Posts: 8,420	Re: Out-of-left-field trade idea..... So you'd short the pen to add more to the back end of the rotation. No thanks. __________________ The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. ~ Carlyle

07-26-2008, 06:34 PM	#8
klw Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New England Posts: 4,284	Re: Out-of-left-field trade idea..... Have a look at the list of free agent outfielders and find two worth signing, let us know who you want, how much you pay them and for how long and then we can evaluate better. I think you will be hard pressed to find two worth going after in the next crop.

07-26-2008, 06:39 PM	#9
Hooligan Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Canal Winchester, OH Posts: 504	Re: Out-of-left-field trade idea..... Worst trade idea ever. Take a break from watching the shrubs. __________________ ...And this one belongs to the Reds!!

07-26-2008, 07:33 PM	#12
Homer Bailey I'm back... and forth Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,596	Re: Out-of-left-field trade idea..... For the 80th time... Cordero has a full no trade clause!!!!!!!

07-26-2008, 07:41 PM	#14
klw Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New England Posts: 4,284	Re: Out-of-left-field trade idea..... Here is the 2008-9 free agent outfielder class. * means there is an option Bobby Abreu NYY Moises Alou NYM Garret Anderson * LAA Rocco Baldelli TB Willie Bloomquist SEA Emil Brown OAK Pat Burrell PHI Endy Chavez NYM Carl Crawford * TB Adam Dunn CIN Jim Edmonds CHC Juan Encarnacion STL Cliff Floyd TB Brian Giles * SD Ken Griffey Jr. * CIN Vladimir Guerrero * LAA Raul Ibanez SEA Jacque Jones DET Mark Kotsay ATL Rob Mackowiak WAS Kevin Mench TEX Jason Michaels * CLE Craig Monroe MIN Jay Payton BAL Scott Podsednik COL Manny Ramirez * BOS Juan Rivera LAA Rondell White MIN

07-26-2008, 08:05 PM	#15
red-in-la Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Santa Paula, CA Posts: 6,536	Re: Out-of-left-field trade idea..... What about Mench to play LF and take a flyer on Encarnacion* to backup CF. I am still convinced that Hairston can play a decent enough CF to play most of the time. *Assuming Encarnacion can still play __________________ "Is there a problem officers?"

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