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Krusty · 08-12-2008, 12:20 AM

Dunn's trade yesterday made me wonder if the Reds could be major players for Mark Texieria this offseason. With the departure of Griffey and Dunn, they free up payroll and could shift Votto to LF.

Opinions?

Sea Ray · 08-12-2008, 12:24 AM

My opinion is they couldn't afford Dunn so they sure won't be able to afford Tex. My suggestion to all Reds fans out there: Do not count on the Reds spending money for the most expensive FAs. You're living pie in the sky if you do and you're bound for disappointment bigtime. The Reds don't do well when they spend big money on FAs like Cordero and Milton and I think WJ knows that.

It ain't happenin'

savafan · 08-12-2008, 12:27 AM

I'm not so sure that they couldn't afford Dunn as much as they didn't want to pay a player like Dunn who has holes in his game the type of contract he'd command.

Krusty · 08-12-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Ray

My opinion is they couldn't afford Dunn so they sure won't be able to afford Tex. My suggestion to all Reds fans out there: Do not count on the Reds spending money for the most expensive FAs. You're living pie in the sky if you do and you're bound for disappointment bigtime. The Reds don't do well when they spend big money on FAs like Cordero and Milton and I think WJ knows that.

It ain't happenin'

Ain't happening? The Reds have an owner that wants to win now. And judging by his comments today,

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...308110055/1071

I think instead of rebuilding, they are planning to reload.

Sea Ray · 08-12-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Krusty

Ain't happening? The Reds have an owner that wants to win now. And judging by his comments today,

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...308110055/1071

I think instead of rebuilding, they are planning to reload.

If he wanted to win now he'd have held onto Dunn. If he wanted to raise the payroll he would have kept Dunn. Listen to his actions. Don't get carried away with the rhetoric. He's not going to come out and say "we're going young and cheap." It'd cost him too much in PR and in season tickets

Krusty · 08-12-2008, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Ray

If he wanted to win now he'd have held onto Dunn. If he wanted to raise the payroll he would have kept Dunn. Listen to his actions. Don't get carried away with the rhetoric. He's not going to come out and say "we're going young and cheap." It'd cost him too much in PR and in season tickets

Dunn had very little appeal to contenders at the trading deadline. It was when the Diamondbacks had no other options to improve that they settled for Dunn.

As for holding onto Dunn, I give ownership a pat on the back for not thinking about extending him for 14 or 15 million a season especially with his inability to drive in runners in scoring position.

Caveat Emperor · 08-12-2008, 12:46 AM

Word has always followed Tex that he was more concerned about his line in the box score than the number on the scoreboard.

For whatever that's worth.

Krusty · 08-12-2008, 12:46 AM

And even if the Reds don't go after Texieria, having 25 million in payroll flexiblity will give Jockerty the ability to retool this team and hopefully make them better balance.

mbgrayson · 08-12-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Krusty

As for holding onto Dunn, I give ownership a pat on the back for not thinking about extending him for 14 or 15 million a season especially with his inability to drive in runners in scoring position.

His RISP numbers have been up and down. But Dunn's line this year with bases loaded: .455/.538/1.000 for an OPS of 1.538. See his situational stats here.

More importantly, the man had 32 HRs and 74 RBIs this year while batting from the 5th and 6th position. He hasn't got nearly the chances to knock in runs as many other sluggers since the Reds are so anemic in OBP (other than Dunn).

Lets measure our runs per game from now to the end of the year. I will bet you that it drops without Dunn.

RedsManRick · 08-12-2008, 12:52 AM

I'd be very happy to get him, but realize that offers will start at around 7/140.

OnBaseMachine · 08-12-2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

I'd be very happy to get him, but realize that offers will start at around 7/140.

With Votto already at first base and possibly Yonder Alonso, I'd rather spend the money elsewhere. Like maybe CC Sabathia.

KronoRed · 08-12-2008, 02:47 AM

No chance at all, the Reds will easily be outbid and honestly why would he want to come play here?

Dunn's production and the glaring holes in this team won't be replaced or fixed in the FA market.

RedLegSuperStar · 08-12-2008, 07:17 AM

You'll have to outbid Baltimore and LAA.. which I'd rather go after a C.C. Sabathia.

Ltlabner · 08-12-2008, 07:18 AM

Why?

So we can have another star player surrounded by crap?

Wheelhouse · 08-12-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by savafan

I'm not so sure that they couldn't afford Dunn as much as they didn't want to pay a player like Dunn who has holes in his game the type of contract he'd command.

Bingo.

08-12-2008, 12:20 AM	#1
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	Mark Texieria Anyone? Dunn's trade yesterday made me wonder if the Reds could be major players for Mark Texieria this offseason. With the departure of Griffey and Dunn, they free up payroll and could shift Votto to LF. Opinions? __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

08-12-2008, 12:24 AM	#2
Sea Ray Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 15,255	Re: Mark Texieria Anyone? My opinion is they couldn't afford Dunn so they sure won't be able to afford Tex. My suggestion to all Reds fans out there: Do not count on the Reds spending money for the most expensive FAs. You're living pie in the sky if you do and you're bound for disappointment bigtime. The Reds don't do well when they spend big money on FAs like Cordero and Milton and I think WJ knows that. It ain't happenin'

08-12-2008, 12:27 AM	#3
savafan Maple SERP Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 17,485	Re: Mark Texieria Anyone? I'm not so sure that they couldn't afford Dunn as much as they didn't want to pay a player like Dunn who has holes in his game the type of contract he'd command. __________________ This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos. If you ask me to join your fantasy baseball league and I select Legolas in the first round, don't be angry at me. It's not my fault I've read up on the players and you haven't.

08-12-2008, 12:46 AM	#7
Caveat Emperor Titanic Struggles Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The 513 Posts: 12,135	Re: Mark Texieria Anyone? Word has always followed Tex that he was more concerned about his line in the box score than the number on the scoreboard. For whatever that's worth. __________________ Championships Matter. 22 Years and Counting...

08-12-2008, 12:46 AM	#8
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	Re: Mark Texieria Anyone? And even if the Reds don't go after Texieria, having 25 million in payroll flexiblity will give Jockerty the ability to retool this team and hopefully make them better balance. __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

08-12-2008, 12:52 AM	#10
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,921	Re: Mark Texieria Anyone? I'd be very happy to get him, but realize that offers will start at around 7/140. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

08-12-2008, 02:47 AM	#12
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,343	Re: Mark Texieria Anyone? No chance at all, the Reds will easily be outbid and honestly why would he want to come play here? Dunn's production and the glaring holes in this team won't be replaced or fixed in the FA market. __________________ Go Gators!

08-12-2008, 07:17 AM	#13
RedLegSuperStar Greatness In The Making Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,078	Re: Mark Texieria Anyone? You'll have to outbid Baltimore and LAA.. which I'd rather go after a C.C. Sabathia. __________________ "I could watch video of Griffey swinging all day. It's like baseball porn." - C. Trent Rosecrans 2008 Reds Record When I Attend: 9W - 5L 2009 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 2L 2010 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 0L 2011 Reds Record When I Attend: 0W - 1L

08-12-2008, 07:18 AM	#14
Ltlabner 2009: Fail Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 7,441	Re: Mark Texieria Anyone? Why? So we can have another star player surrounded by crap? __________________ a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude. I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

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