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Wheelhouse · 08-12-2008, 07:28 AM

Who do you think Jocketty will dispose of next?

camisadelgolf · 08-12-2008, 07:36 AM

I think he'll get rid of Edinson Volquez, just to spite Wayne Krivsky. But seriously, I could see Jocketty trading Brandon Phillips and justifying it by saying Jeff Keppinger and Danny Richar could handle the job in his place while the money saved will go to a big-name free agent. I think really (too) big things are expected of him, and I think he wants to do something just as big, or bigger, as trading Griffey and Dunn.

Wheelhouse · 08-12-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by camisadelgolf

I think he'll get rid of Edinson Volquez, just to spite Wayne Krivsky. But seriously, I could see Jocketty trading Brandon Phillips and justifying it by saying Jeff Keppinger and Danny Richar could handle the job in his place while the money saved will go to a big-name free agent. I think really (too) big things are expected of him, and I think he wants to do something just as big, or bigger, as trading Griffey and Dunn.

I can see that...

wolfboy · 08-12-2008, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by camisadelgolf

I think he'll get rid of Edinson Volquez, just to spite Wayne Krivsky. But seriously, I could see Jocketty trading Brandon Phillips and justifying it by saying Jeff Keppinger and Danny Richar could handle the job in his place while the money saved will go to a big-name free agent. I think really (too) big things are expected of him, and I think he wants to do something just as big, or bigger, as trading Griffey and Dunn.

I'd be okay with that. If Dunn's value was lower than it should be, then Phillips has a value higher than it should be. The Reds should take advantage of that.

HokieRed · 08-12-2008, 09:42 AM

Arroyo wasn't on the list. If a major-league ready starter comes over in the Dunn deal, I think he'll still look to move Arroyo to get out from under the stupid contract of the next two seasons. The goal is to get flexibility to move in many directions in the rebuild; that means getting rid of as many as possible of WK's contracts. But I take it for granted that many on the list will be gone: Majewski, Weathers, Fogg, Javy, Patterson. Those are just questions of time. This team is going to look very different, rightly, IMO.

flyer85 · 08-12-2008, 09:47 AM

everyone on the list, other than Weathers, is flotsam.

KronoRed · 08-12-2008, 01:14 PM

Hopefully Phillips, although I wonder if he's missed the boat on that.

REDREAD · 08-12-2008, 01:45 PM

I imagine the next activity will be announcing the Reds have no interest in signing Patterson, Weathers, etc.

I picked Weathers because there's a small chance he'll get moved in a waiver wire deal (although I doubt it).

I suspect Maj might be back next year because he's a cheap body. Even if he's eligible for arb, he won't cost much. Same with Coffey. With Lincoln, Affedlt, and Weathers pending FAs, Walt really can't empty cut every body he has from the bullpen. He needs some depth to cover contingencies. However, I expect Belisle to be gone. I think Walt has seen enough of him.

Team Clark · 08-12-2008, 02:39 PM

Patterson. I mean REALLY!!! You can not continue to keep this hack.

indy_dave00 · 08-12-2008, 03:45 PM

As far as I'm concerned they all should be dumped.

marcshoe · 08-12-2008, 03:56 PM

On that list, I think only the first two stand a decent chance of being back next year. I chose Fogg, because teams get really, really desparate for pitching.

wheels · 08-12-2008, 04:40 PM

Why is Arroyo not listed?

WVRedsFan · 08-12-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Clark

Patterson. I mean REALLY!!! You can not continue to keep this hack.

And hack is the appropriate descriptive name for him.

Totally agree.

redsfan30 · 08-12-2008, 06:43 PM

Todd Coffey.

Though FAR from the biggest problem in this organization, it's just time to move on. He's not going to the job done here.

WebScorpion · 08-12-2008, 08:11 PM

Bavasi?

View Poll Results: Who will Jocketty eject next (can be after season)?
Dusty	1	2.78%
Edwin	6	16.67%
Freel	2	5.56%
Bako	0	0%
Patterson	9	25.00%
Weathers	7	19.44%
Valentin	4	11.11%
Coffey	2	5.56%
Fogg	4	11.11%
Majewski	1	2.78%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

08-12-2008, 07:28 AM	#1
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08-12-2008, 07:36 AM	#2
camisadelgolf Vampire Weekend @Bernie's Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 11,311	Re: Next to go after the season? I think he'll get rid of Edinson Volquez, just to spite Wayne Krivsky. But seriously, I could see Jocketty trading Brandon Phillips and justifying it by saying Jeff Keppinger and Danny Richar could handle the job in his place while the money saved will go to a big-name free agent. I think really (too) big things are expected of him, and I think he wants to do something just as big, or bigger, as trading Griffey and Dunn.

08-12-2008, 09:42 AM	#5
HokieRed Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,052	Re: Next to go after the season? Arroyo wasn't on the list. If a major-league ready starter comes over in the Dunn deal, I think he'll still look to move Arroyo to get out from under the stupid contract of the next two seasons. The goal is to get flexibility to move in many directions in the rebuild; that means getting rid of as many as possible of WK's contracts. But I take it for granted that many on the list will be gone: Majewski, Weathers, Fogg, Javy, Patterson. Those are just questions of time. This team is going to look very different, rightly, IMO.

08-12-2008, 09:47 AM	#6
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: Next to go after the season? everyone on the list, other than Weathers, is flotsam. __________________ What are you, people? On dope? - Mr Hand

08-12-2008, 01:14 PM	#7
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,343	Re: Next to go after the season? Hopefully Phillips, although I wonder if he's missed the boat on that. __________________ Go Gators!

08-12-2008, 01:45 PM	#8
REDREAD Where's my chair? Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 19,800	Re: Next to go after the season? I imagine the next activity will be announcing the Reds have no interest in signing Patterson, Weathers, etc. I picked Weathers because there's a small chance he'll get moved in a waiver wire deal (although I doubt it). I suspect Maj might be back next year because he's a cheap body. Even if he's eligible for arb, he won't cost much. Same with Coffey. With Lincoln, Affedlt, and Weathers pending FAs, Walt really can't empty cut every body he has from the bullpen. He needs some depth to cover contingencies. However, I expect Belisle to be gone. I think Walt has seen enough of him. __________________ Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2012 AND 2013! Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot! Last edited by REDREAD; 08-12-2008 at 01:48 PM.

08-12-2008, 03:45 PM	#10
indy_dave00 Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: indiana Posts: 1,220	Re: Next to go after the season? As far as I'm concerned they all should be dumped.

08-12-2008, 03:56 PM	#11
marcshoe Ex-tixe Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Just past Mars Posts: 4,470	Re: Next to go after the season? On that list, I think only the first two stand a decent chance of being back next year. I chose Fogg, because teams get really, really desparate for pitching. __________________ At the Edge of the Woods Preview Go to the edge of the cliff and jump off. Build your wings on the way down. --Ray Bradbury

08-12-2008, 04:40 PM	#12
wheels Dented and Spent Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,538	Re: Next to go after the season? Why is Arroyo not listed? __________________ "Opening Day.... Pfffft! We get all excited, thinking they're gonna have some kinda great year....Same thing over and over. Disappointment. What time do you want me to come over?" - My Dad. Opening Day 2012.

08-12-2008, 06:43 PM	#14
redsfan30 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,545	Re: Next to go after the season? Todd Coffey. Though FAR from the biggest problem in this organization, it's just time to move on. He's not going to the job done here. __________________ "Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill

08-12-2008, 08:11 PM	#15
WebScorpion SERP deep cover ops Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: In the Ether Posts: 5,363	Re: Next to go after the season? Bavasi? __________________ "It doesn't get any better than this," --Marty Brennaman

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