Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

[lollipopcurve]

I agree for the most part, but Lotzkar and Hildenbrandt excite me. Especially Lotzkar. I think he's got a chance to be a special pitcher someday.

Lotzkar is the exception, yes, but my expectations have been tempered by his elbow injury. Hildenbrandt, no. Not TOR stuff, so far as I know, just a good curveball.

[RED VAN HOT]

[QUOTE=princeton;1722987]

out of top 12 picks in three drafts, only Travis Webb (a no. 8 pick) and Drew Bowman (a no. 5) were selected. Two lefties in 36 picks.

Maybe this signals a new emphasis on LH pitching. Fairel's stats suggest that had he declared his intention to turn pro in advance of the draft, he would have gone around the fourth round. That would also be consistent with the money the Reds offered.

Overall, I am impressed by the Reds ability to finesse two relatively high draft choices by pursuing kids that other clubs had given up on.

[mac624]

Well, I watched him a lot at FSU and his fastball probably tops out at 89 or 90, but he's got very good breaking stuff and is very accurate with his pitches. Another year of school would have helped him, and by the time he came out, he'd be a top 2 or 3 round guy, maybe even a compensatory sandwich guy.

While I'm not saying he's the next Tom Glavine, he does remind me of him in that he hits the corners and gets very good control most of the time. He won't wow you on the gun, but the guy gets results.

[nemesis]

Originally Posted by mac624

Well, I watched him a lot at FSU and his fastball probably tops out at 89 or 90, but he's got very good breaking stuff and is very accurate with his pitches. Another year of school would have helped him, and by the time he came out, he'd be a top 2 or 3 round guy, maybe even a compensatory sandwich guy.

While I'm not saying he's the next Tom Glavine, he does remind me of him in that he hits the corners and gets very good control most of the time. He won't wow you on the gun, but the guy gets results.

Then why would we sign him, here on the RedsZone you better be Tom Glavine, CC Sabathia, Prince Albert or A Rod to be considered Major Leauge Ready here...

[princeton]

Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT

Fairel's stats suggest that had he declared his intention to turn pro in advance of the draft, he would have gone around the fourth round. That would also be consistent with the money the Reds offered..

1. you don't draft on stats

2. the last 2 years, we've been giving guys money that didn't match their talent if they have enough leverage. by extrapolation, if Fairel signed for 4th round money, it may mean that he has 12th round talent.

[RedlegJake]

Originally Posted by princeton

1. you don't draft on stats

2. the last 2 years, we've been giving guys money that didn't match their talent if they have enough leverage. by extrapolation, if Fairel signed for 4th round money, it may mean that he has 12th round talent.

Anytime I want to figure out how good a prospect might be I take your view and Doug's view and split the difference.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by lollipopcurve

Lotzkar is the exception, yes, but my expectations have been tempered by his elbow injury. Hildenbrandt, no. Not TOR stuff, so far as I know, just a good curveball.

Hildenbrandt also features a low 90's fastball. Maybe not TOR stuff right now, but he is 19, so his stuff isn't exactly set in stone either.

[camisadelgolf]

Originally Posted by RedlegJake

Anytime I want to figure out how good a prospect might be I take your view and Doug's view and split the difference.

QFT