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Old 10-25-2008, 07:50 AM   #1
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Four Young Lions
Says analyst Bill James, referring to Joey Votto, Edinson Volquez, Jay Bruce and Johnny Cueto, "They have four young lions everybody would love to have."

Predict the 2009 season numbers for each (I know its early but I'm excited).


Votto: .275, 30 HR, 95 RBI, 10 SB, 45 2B

Volquez: 16-12, 3.60 ERA, 175 K

Cueto: 15-13, 3.25 ERA, 200 K

Bruce: .280, 38 HR, 110 RBI, 8 SB, 40 2B
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:20 PM   #2
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Votto will be closer to .300 if not over.

Volquez will be closer to 3.0 era

Cueto and Bruce look about right.
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Old 10-25-2008, 02:09 PM   #3
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Wow. If they play that well, you should be excited about next year.
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Old 10-25-2008, 02:28 PM   #4
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Re: Four Young Lions
Votto .285/.385/.515
Volquez 3.48 ERA 200 IP 210 Ks 1.32 WHIP
Cueto 3.95 ERA 180 IP 166 Ks 1.29 WHIP
Bruce .275/.337/.495
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Old 10-25-2008, 06:22 PM   #5
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Votto will be closer to .300 if not over.

Volquez will be closer to 3.0 era

Cueto and Bruce look about right.
An accurate post IMO. I see Votto as a + hitter, who happens to hit HRs, ala Paul O'Neill or dare I say Will Clark. Volquez will be a rock-solid pitcher, (he's smart enough to figure it all out and dominate). Cueto and Bruce should have learned a lot in'08, and I am expecting both to get better and better. The future is getting brighter...........
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Old 10-25-2008, 08:57 PM   #6
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The doubles seem to be a bit high for Votto and I think he will get to 100 RBIs but the rest looks about right
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:00 PM   #7
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I definitely see Volquez reaching 200 K's more than Cueto. I think Cueto has amazing stuff but I think 2008's success is exactly what a player like Volquez needed to become a top pitcher in the NL.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:32 PM   #8
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The doubles seem to be a bit high for Votto and I think he will get to 100 RBIs but the rest looks about right
I would be careful when predicting stats like runs or RBI, they are highly circumstantial and at this point no one really knows what the reds lineup is going to look like next year with the entire offseason still to come.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:01 PM   #9
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Re: Four Young Lions
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Says analyst Bill James, referring to Joey Votto, Edinson Volquez, Jay Bruce and Johnny Cueto, "They have four young lions everybody would love to have."

Predict the 2009 season numbers for each (I know its early but I'm excited).


Votto: .275, 30 HR, 95 RBI, 10 SB, 45 2B

Volquez: 16-12, 3.60 ERA, 175 K

Cueto: 15-13, 3.25 ERA, 200 K

Bruce: .280, 38 HR, 110 RBI, 8 SB, 40 2B

I think Votto will have a higher average, but the rest looks close

Volquez would have more k's

I think that's a stretch for Cueto for next year...I'd say era closer to 4.00

For Bruce, I'd say the dingers are a bit high. Maybe 28-30
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:57 PM   #10
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Votto: .280, .352, .485
Volquez: 14-6, 3.22, 210ks
Cueto: 13-10, 4.15, 179ks
Bruce: .269, .328, .462
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:37 PM   #11
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AVG HR RBI
Votto 296 27 104
Bruce 280 28 93

W L ERA
Volquez 15 6 3.18
Cueto 15 9 3.73
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:00 PM   #12
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bruce is awesome
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:00 PM   #13
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he might win a batting title
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:33 AM   #14
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What about the thing called the sophmore slump?
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:17 PM   #15
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Votto: .290, 40 2B, 27 HR, 110 RBI, >850 OPS

Volquez: 15-10, 3.75 ERA, 200+ K

Cueto: 13-13, 4.25 ERA, 175 - 200 K

Bruce: .300, 40 HR, 95 RBI - 175 Ks 825 OPS
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