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Old 11-05-2008, 12:56 AM   #1
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Quick Recap from Az visit

In general stadiums nicer than Fl, the Peoria (SD/Sea) facility is great. The Reds/Indians facilty is in the part of Phx I like best (west of town). Stadium nowhere close to being done. No visible (from street) work being done on Reds part.

Traffic is murder on the freeways there.

Not a scout, but couldn't shake the feeling that Stubbs, Valaika and Turner are destined to be 2nd tier guys that compete for roster slots, get some playing time and bounce between majors and minors.

Brett Wallace of St Louis has HUGE thighs and butt. If there's a hurricane grab on to him. Hits pretty good though.....

The player that impressed me most? Justin Smoak...... the kid is huge, is super smooth with glove, hits the hell out of the ball. I wish we had taken him.

The unknown that got my attention was Tyler Flowers a catcher for Braves. That guy can hit and he only played A ball this year. Love to see Reds get him.


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Old 11-05-2008, 01:18 AM   #2
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The unknown that got my attention was Tyler Flowers a catcher for Braves. That guy can hit and he only played A ball this year. Love to see Reds get him.
Flowers is a former PED guy, but the guy can flat out rake it. I was asked to help rank the top catchers under the age of 30 in baseball and had him ranked 15th overall, inlcuding major leaguers.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:32 AM   #3
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Flowers is a former PED guy, but the guy can flat out rake it. I was asked to help rank the top catchers under the age of 30 in baseball and had him ranked 15th overall, inlcuding major leaguers.
Speaking of that Kpresidente brought up a guy who might be a nice solid fit as a platoon partner for Hanigan but doesn't have any more experience than does Hanigan. John Baker of the Marlins, 27 years old but seemingly a similiar player to Hanigan but with more pop & from the left side. Heard of him and if so what do you think as a late alternative to not getting a vet or stud prospect?
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:17 AM   #4
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Thanks for the recap, Tom.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:33 AM   #5
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The player that impressed me most? Justin Smoak...... the kid is huge, is super smooth with glove, hits the hell out of the ball. I wish we had taken him.
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wasn't alonso ranked lower than smoak?
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:55 AM   #6
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wasn't alonso ranked lower than smoak?
By most people, yes. They were considered pretty close in talent, but Smoak was normally rated slightly higher.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:08 AM   #7
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By most people, yes. They were considered pretty close in talent, but Smoak was normally rated slightly higher.
I read somewhere that the intangibles are what separated Alonso from Smoak for the Reds. One thing that appears clear about Alonso is that he works extremely hard.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:35 AM   #8
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wasn't alonso ranked lower than smoak?
It was about 60-40 in favor of Smoak. Generally it was noted that Smoak had more power while Alonso had better discipline, but they were both close to the other guy in each respect.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:38 AM   #9
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IIRC there are/were some makeup issues concerning Smoak. Anyway, great report Jax. You lucky guy. How come you didn't catch a flight to Hawaii and give us reports on Alonso and Frazier?
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Old 11-05-2008, 12:41 PM   #10
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I read that they are having Reds groundbreaking on November 17th
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