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Old 11-04-2008, 10:55 PM   #1
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YOUR Top 40 Prospects

I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread where everybody can put their prospect lists for future reference. This way, we can compare how we saw prospects from one year to another when we do our community vote:

BaseClogger's 2009 Top 40
1. Yonder Alonso
2. Kyle Lotzkar
3. Neftali Soto
4. Todd Frazier
5. Devin Mesoraco
6. Juan Duran
7. Daryl Thompson
8. Danny Dorn
9. Juan Francisco
10. Chris Valaika
11. Ramon Ramirez
12. Chris Dickerson
13. Zach Stewart
14. Yorman Rodriguez
15. Josh Roenicke
16. Drew Stubbs
17. Ryan Hanigan
18. Matt Maloney
19. Zach Cozart
20. Travis Wood
21. Jeremy Horst
22. Carlos Fisher
23. Adam Rosales
24. Pedro Viola
25. Robert Manuel
26. Dallas Buck
27. Justin Turner
28. Jordan Smith
29. Sam Lecure
30. Evan Hildenbrandt
31. Juan Carlos Sulbaran
32. Shaun Cumberland
33. Brandon Waring
34. Danny Herrera
35. Sean Henry
36. Chris Heisey
37. Sean Watson
38. Scott Carrol
39. Tonys Gutierrez
40. Alex Buchholz
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:08 PM   #2
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

My Top 40 Prospects

1.Yonder Alonso
2.Neftali Soto
3.Drew Stubbs
4.Todd Frazier
5.Chris Valaika
6.Devin Mesoraco
7.Kyle Lotzkar
8.Zach Stewart
9.Danny Dorn
10.Juan Francisco
11.Juan Duran
12.Daryl Thompson
13.Carlos Fisher
14.Josh Roenicke
15.Zach Cozart
16.Yorman Rodriguez
17.Ramon Ramirez
18.Chris Dickerson
19.Adam Rosales
20.Ryan Hanigan
21.Pedro Viola
22.Justin Turner
23.Chris Heisey
24.Jeremy Horst
25.Alex Buchholz
26.Robert Manuel
27.Evan Hildenbrandt
28.Travis Wood
29.Matt Maloney
30.Scott Carroll
31.Philippe Valiquette
32.Sam Lecure
33.Dallas Buck
34.Jordan Smith
35.Shaun Cumberland
36.Juan Carlos Sulbaran
37.Sean Watson
38.Sean Henry
39.Brandon Waring
40.Ramon Geronimo
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:21 AM   #3
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

I'll say this before I put my top 40, I may tweak it up until they begin play. Probably not so much the top 10-15 but I found last year that I learned a few things about some of the later guys last season while we were doing these rankings that vaulted guys a few spots or dropped them a few.

But I'm sure every one of us tweak it here and there. I would put Homer at 4 assuming he was R.O.Y eligible. But since I know not many will include him I'll just address this here and not on the list. I also added a few more just for fun.

1 - Soto
2 - Frazier
3 - Alonso
4 - Lotzkar
5 - Valaika
6 - Stubbs
7 - Mesoraco
8 - Dickerson
9 - Dorn
10 - Thompson
11 - Stewart
12 - Ramirez
13 - Fisher
14 - Roenicke
15 - Rosales
16 - Henry
17 - Maloney
18 - Cozart
19 - Bucholz
20 - Francisco
21 - Wood
22 - Duran
23 - Rodriguez
24 - Hanigan
25 - Viola
26 - Horst
27 - Heisey
28 - Watson
29 - Castillo
30 - Turner
31 - Manuel
32 - Cumberland
33 - Buck
34 - Hildenbrandt
35 - Sulbaran
36 - Parker
37 - Geronimo
38 - Wiley
39 - A. Smit
40 - J. Smith

41 - Sappelt
42 - Thurman
43 - Brown
44 - Puckett
45 - Tatum
46 - Shunick
47 - A. Gonzalez
48 - Castro
49 - Waring
50 - LeCure
51 - Lutz (Pitcher)
52 - Richar
53 - Widemann
54 - Familia
55 - Cline
56 - Jukich
57 - Herrera
58 - Reed
59 - Guillon
60 - Arias/Morrison
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:41 PM   #4
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I'll say this before I put my top 40, I may tweak it up until they begin play. Probably not so much the top 10-15 but I found last year that I learned a few things about some of the later guys last season while we were doing these rankings that vaulted guys a few spots or dropped them a few.

But I'm sure every one of us tweak it here and there. I would put Homer at 4 assuming he was R.O.Y eligible. But since I know not many will include him I'll just address this here and not on the list. I also added a few more just for fun.

1 - Soto
2 - Frazier
3 - Alonso
4 - Lotzkar
5 - Valaika
6 - Stubbs
7 - Mesoraco
8 - Dickerson
9 - Dorn
10 - Thompson
11 - Stewart
12 - Ramirez
13 - Fisher
14 - Roenicke
15 - Rosales
16 - Henry
17 - Maloney
18 - Cozart
19 - Bucholz
20 - Francisco
21 - Wood
22 - Duran
23 - Rodriguez
24 - Hanigan
25 - Viola
26 - Horst
27 - Heisey
28 - Watson
29 - Castillo
30 - Turner
31 - Manuel
32 - Cumberland
33 - Buck
34 - Hildenbrandt
35 - Sulbaran
36 - Parker
37 - Geronimo
38 - Wiley
39 - A. Smit
40 - J. Smith

41 - Sappelt
42 - Thurman
43 - Brown
44 - Puckett
45 - Tatum
46 - Shunick
47 - A. Gonzalez
48 - Castro
49 - Waring
50 - LeCure
51 - Lutz (Pitcher)
52 - Richar
53 - Widemann
54 - Reed- Familia is a D-Backs prospect from the Reds/Dbax DSL
55 - Cline
56 - Jukich
57 - Herrera
58 - Morrison
59 - Guillon
60 - Arias
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:46 PM   #5
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

You lost me with that last post. What's the deal with Familia beside Justin Reed's name?
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You lost me with that last post. What's the deal with Familia beside Justin Reed's name?
I had Silio Familia as a prospect of ours in my initial post, but he is just on the Reds/DBacks DSL. And he is a DBacks prospect. It was late....
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:00 PM   #7
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

I'll go with 30 -- Didn't include Dickerson or Hanigan since I expect that their prospect days are over. Didn't include Bailey. On my list, and some others, once you get past the top 15 or twenty, the Reds' depth is in pitching, which is good.

1. Alonso -- OBP, power, and average
2. Frazier -- Maybe a shade below Alonso, but close from right side
3. Stubbs -- Defense makes up for bat questions
4. Soto -- Overhyped but potentially a high average hitter
5. Francisco -- Underhyped, huge production, needs to walk more
6. Lotzkar -- Raw, maybe injured, but best starter package in org
7. Duran -- Just based on scouting
8. Roenicke -- Could be the next Dibble.
9. Valaika -- Can hit, unsure if MLB starter, defense unclear
10.Thompson -- Just based on that Yankee performance
11. Stewart -- Moving fast as reliever, seems to have great stuff
12. Dorn -- Platoon left fielder, very consistent minor league hitter
13. Cozart -- Hidden gem, org's true shortstop, will he hit?
14. Mesoraco -- Needs time to develop, first round talent
15. Lecure -- For awhile was super in AA last year, until injury
16. Fisher -- With ground ball stuff, good fit as reliever
17. Rodriguez -- Like Duran, based on scouting
18. Ramirez -- Has held up well in upper levels
19. Watson -- Performance must improve, apparently dynamite stuff
20. Turner -- May lack some projection, great make up, performs
21. J. Smith -- Did great at High A, ground balls, low WHIP, solid
22. Henry -- Looks like a solid fourth outfielder
23. Viola -- Inconsistent but can be effective from pen or starting
24. Hildenbrandt -- Needs to develop but seems to be class of GCL crop
25. Rosales -- See him as reserve, but gets bat on ball, versatile
26. Wood -- Smaller frame, needs to show has more than changeup
27. Buck -- Deserves mention due to pre-injury status
28. Tatum -- Didn't hit last year, still projects as defensive catcher
29. Manuel -- Not hyped for his projection, but good numbers
30. Waring -- More hype in '07, not giving up on him

Notably missing -- Maloney. Would love to see him succeed as lefty starter, didn't happen in 2008.

Honorable mention -- Bucholtz. Another good season and he rockets up the list.

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Old 11-05-2008, 08:18 PM   #8
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Good thread idea. I'll get mine on here when I get a full list done, I've only thought about the first 15 or so.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:00 PM   #9
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

My Top 40 Prospects

1. Yonder Alonso
2. Neftali Soto
3. Todd Frazier
4. Juan Francisco
5. Drew Stubbs
6. Juan Duran
7. Chris Valaika
8. Zach Stewart
9. Josh Roenicke
10. Yorman Rodriguez
11. Devin Mesoraco
12. Kyle Lotzkar
13. Danny Dorn
14. Carlos Fisher
15. Matt Maloney
16. Justin Turner
17. Sean Watson
18. Ismael Guillon
19. Chris Dickerson
20. Zach Cozart
21. Evan Hildenbrandt
22. Dallas Buck
23. Blaine Howell
24. Junior Arias
25. Sam Lecure
26. Terrell Young
27. Philippe Valiquette
28. Juan Carlos Sulbaran
29. Jordan Smith
30. Travis Wood
31. Daryl Thompson
32. Ramon Ramirez
33. Pedro Viola
34. Sean Henry
35. Shaun Cumberland
36. Jeremy Horst
37. Tyler Cline
38. Tyler Pelland
39. Daniel Morrison
40. Alex Buchholz
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Notably missing -- Maloney. Would love to see him succeed as lefty starter, didn't happen in 2008.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:28 PM   #11
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

1. Yonder Alonso- liked the pick
2. Todd Frazier- provides much needed right handed bat
3. Neftali Soto- This is not hype its production and at a very young age, he will have to work on his plate discipline at some point….won’t he?
4. Danny Dorn- Im going to treat anyone who could hit 25 hr’s in the majors as a regular rather than a platoon.
5. Chris Valaika- The reds seem to be content to leave him at ss for now
6. Daryl Thompson- needs to stay healthy
7. Kyle Lotzkar- ditto
8. Carlos Fisher- like the groundball tendencies
9. Devin Mesoraco- I’d keep him in Dayton for at least half the season
10. Juan Fransisco- Too much power to ignore,
11. Chris Dickerson- Only player on this list to OBP over .400 in MLB
12. Josh Roenicke- can’t live off a fastball alone,
13. Ramon Ramirez
14. Drew Stubbs- Serious doubts about him, I’d trade him while his value is high. At least his production has remained consistent. Brian Anderson proved lack of offense is not tolerated.
15. Zach Stewart-
16. Zach Cozart- Didn’t like this pick but he had a good year in Dayton, if he has a solid year next year he’ll jump into my top 10
17. Chris Heisey- I was a Denorfia fan as well
18. Juan Duran- too much money to ignore
19. Yorman Rodriguez- ditto
20. Adam Rosales- Rough slump to start the season before getting hot. He had 70 XBH the previous season.

21. Ryan Hanigan
22. Matt Maloney-
23. Justin Turner
24. Pedro Viola
25. Sam Lecure
26. Travis Wood
27. Jeremy Horst
28. Sean Watson
29. Evan Hildenbrandt
30. Sean Henry
31. Robert Manuel
32. Shaun Cumberland
33. Jordan Smith
34. Alex Buchholz
35. Alexander Smit
36. Byron Wiley
37. Ramon Geronimo
38. Juan Carlos Sulbaran
39. Ramon Geronimo
40. Miseal Dejesus
41. Danny Ray Herrera

Players who I'll be interested to see how they perform, in no relevant order

1. Juan Aquino
2. Justin Reed
3. Shea Snowden
4. David Sappelt
5. Logan Parker
6. Jeff Jeffords
7. Scott Carroll
8. Cody Puckett
9. Andrew Means
10. Brandon Waring
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These rankings are opinion, and everyone's entitled to their opinion. I'll only speak up if something is presented as a fact when it can be proven untrue.

Also, I am glad everyone has figured out the origin of my username. I always wondered if people got that or not.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:07 PM   #13
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These rankings are opinion, and everyone's entitled to their opinion. I'll only speak up if something is presented as a fact when it can be proven untrue.

Also, I am glad everyone has figured out the origin of my username. I always wondered if people got that or not.
WMR had it figured out when you were up for vote...
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:14 AM   #14
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

1. Soto
2. Alonso
3. Francisco
4. Y. Rodriguez
5. Lotzkar
6. Dickerson
7. Stewart
8. Thompson
9. Hanigan
10. Frazier
11. Valaika
12. Duran
13. Stubbs
14. Mesoraco
15. Heisey
16. Horst
17. Buchholz
18. Hildenbrandt
19. Cozart
20. Fisher
21. Waring
22. Dorn
23. Sulbaran
24. Turner
25. Roenicke
26. R. Ramirez
27. I. Guillon
28. Viola
29. Herrera
30. Buck
31. Manuel
32. M. Thurman
33. Maloney
34. S. Snowden
35. J. Arias
36. D. Sappelt
37. Rosales
38. Tatum
39. R. Geronimo
40. Parker
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Old 11-06-2008, 01:21 AM   #15
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects

1. Yonder Alonso - polished approach, .300/.400/.550 caliber hitter
2. Neftali Soto - potential 30 homer, .900+ OPS hitter, few more walks would be nice
3. Todd Frazier - good combo of power/OBP, Youkilis-lite?
4. Drew Stubbs - gold glove caliber CFer, good OBP skills
5. Kyle Lotzkar - very young, electric stuff, potential ace
6. Daryl Thompson - potential solid big league starter, Arroyo with better velocity?
7. Chris Valaika - solid bat, potential .800 OPS hitter?
8. Juan Francisco - 35 to 40 homer power, improved plate discipline is key
9. Juan Duran - incredible talent, one of best hitting prospects to come out of Dominican Republic
10. Chris Dickerson - plus defender in CF with skills to be above average hitter
11. Danny Dorn - potential 30 homer guy, good OBP skills, needs to improve vs lefties
12. Zach Stewart - dominant stuff, potential shutdown reliever
13. Josh Roenicke - great fastball, needs to refine breaking ball, potential dominant relief arm
14. Yorman Rodriguez - incredible athlete, draws comparisons to Eric Davis and Cesar Cedeno
15. Carlos Fisher - great stuff with groundball tendencies, good major league reliever
16. Ramon Ramirez - plus changeup, solid fastball, chance to be solid big league starter or reliever
17. Matt Maloney - average fastball with quality curveball and changeup. Potential innings eating #4 starter
18. Dallas Buck - strong groundball tendencies, velocity will be key
19. Devin Mesoraco - still has some work to do, but still a good prospect
20. Zach Cozart - plus defender at shortstop, solid power, needs to work on plate discipline
21. Adam Rosales - big league utility player with solid power
22. Chris Heisey - good defender in CF with good OBP skills
23. Pedro Viola - good stuff, has a chance to be a quality lefty out of the pen
24. Jeremy Horst - good command of average stuff, potential back-end starter or lefty reliever
25. Alex Buchholz - big time bat, decent defender at second base
26. Evan Hildenbrandt - already has two above average pitches in fastball and curve
27. Justin Turner - utility type guy, Reds fans will love his all-out style of play
28. Sean Henry - solid player in mold of a Reed Johnson type
29. Juan Carlos Sulbaran - low 90's fastball with plus movement, quality curve and changeup. Could take a huge leap on this list next year
30. Travis Wood - plus changeup, command needs some work
31. Robert Manuel - average to slightly above average fastball with movement, good changeup and great command
32. Mace Thurman - potential steal in late rounds of 2008 draft, potential to be a good lefty out of pen
33. Junior Arias - only 16, slick fielding shortstop with good potential in bat
34. Sam Lecure - average stuff, maybe big league 5th starter/swing man
35. Jordan Smith - power arm with groundball tendencies
36. Ismael Guillon - 16 year old lefty, 88-92 mph heater with advanced changeup for his age
37. Philippe Valiquette - quality stuff, command is key
38. Carter Morrison - toolsy outfielder from Canada, big potential, possible steal
39. Ryan Hanigan - Already 28 years old, not much power, good OBP skills, solid defender, age is reason I dropped him so low... I do like him, he's a good story
40. Brandon Waring - solid defender with big power, needs to cut down on strikeouts

*This could be subject to change. I sort of just threw this list together tonight.
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