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YOUR Top 40 Prospects
I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread where everybody can put their prospect lists for future reference. This way, we can compare how we saw prospects from one year to another when we do our community vote:
BaseClogger's 2009 Top 40 1. Yonder Alonso 2. Kyle Lotzkar 3. Neftali Soto 4. Todd Frazier 5. Devin Mesoraco 6. Juan Duran 7. Daryl Thompson 8. Danny Dorn 9. Juan Francisco 10. Chris Valaika 11. Ramon Ramirez 12. Chris Dickerson 13. Zach Stewart 14. Yorman Rodriguez 15. Josh Roenicke 16. Drew Stubbs 17. Ryan Hanigan 18. Matt Maloney 19. Zach Cozart 20. Travis Wood 21. Jeremy Horst 22. Carlos Fisher 23. Adam Rosales 24. Pedro Viola 25. Robert Manuel 26. Dallas Buck 27. Justin Turner 28. Jordan Smith 29. Sam Lecure 30. Evan Hildenbrandt 31. Juan Carlos Sulbaran 32. Shaun Cumberland 33. Brandon Waring 34. Danny Herrera 35. Sean Henry 36. Chris Heisey 37. Sean Watson 38. Scott Carrol 39. Tonys Gutierrez 40. Alex Buchholz
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
My Top 40 Prospects
1.Yonder Alonso 2.Neftali Soto 3.Drew Stubbs 4.Todd Frazier 5.Chris Valaika 6.Devin Mesoraco 7.Kyle Lotzkar 8.Zach Stewart 9.Danny Dorn 10.Juan Francisco 11.Juan Duran 12.Daryl Thompson 13.Carlos Fisher 14.Josh Roenicke 15.Zach Cozart 16.Yorman Rodriguez 17.Ramon Ramirez 18.Chris Dickerson 19.Adam Rosales 20.Ryan Hanigan 21.Pedro Viola 22.Justin Turner 23.Chris Heisey 24.Jeremy Horst 25.Alex Buchholz 26.Robert Manuel 27.Evan Hildenbrandt 28.Travis Wood 29.Matt Maloney 30.Scott Carroll 31.Philippe Valiquette 32.Sam Lecure 33.Dallas Buck 34.Jordan Smith 35.Shaun Cumberland 36.Juan Carlos Sulbaran 37.Sean Watson 38.Sean Henry 39.Brandon Waring 40.Ramon Geronimo
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
I'll say this before I put my top 40, I may tweak it up until they begin play. Probably not so much the top 10-15 but I found last year that I learned a few things about some of the later guys last season while we were doing these rankings that vaulted guys a few spots or dropped them a few.
But I'm sure every one of us tweak it here and there. I would put Homer at 4 assuming he was R.O.Y eligible. But since I know not many will include him I'll just address this here and not on the list. I also added a few more just for fun. 1 - Soto 2 - Frazier 3 - Alonso 4 - Lotzkar 5 - Valaika 6 - Stubbs 7 - Mesoraco 8 - Dickerson 9 - Dorn 10 - Thompson 11 - Stewart 12 - Ramirez 13 - Fisher 14 - Roenicke 15 - Rosales 16 - Henry 17 - Maloney 18 - Cozart 19 - Bucholz 20 - Francisco 21 - Wood 22 - Duran 23 - Rodriguez 24 - Hanigan 25 - Viola 26 - Horst 27 - Heisey 28 - Watson 29 - Castillo 30 - Turner 31 - Manuel 32 - Cumberland 33 - Buck 34 - Hildenbrandt 35 - Sulbaran 36 - Parker 37 - Geronimo 38 - Wiley 39 - A. Smit 40 - J. Smith 41 - Sappelt 42 - Thurman 43 - Brown 44 - Puckett 45 - Tatum 46 - Shunick 47 - A. Gonzalez 48 - Castro 49 - Waring 50 - LeCure 51 - Lutz (Pitcher) 52 - Richar 53 - Widemann 54 - Familia 55 - Cline 56 - Jukich 57 - Herrera 58 - Reed 59 - Guillon 60 - Arias/Morrison
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
You lost me with that last post. What's the deal with Familia beside Justin Reed's name?
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
I'll go with 30 -- Didn't include Dickerson or Hanigan since I expect that their prospect days are over. Didn't include Bailey. On my list, and some others, once you get past the top 15 or twenty, the Reds' depth is in pitching, which is good.
1. Alonso -- OBP, power, and average 2. Frazier -- Maybe a shade below Alonso, but close from right side 3. Stubbs -- Defense makes up for bat questions 4. Soto -- Overhyped but potentially a high average hitter 5. Francisco -- Underhyped, huge production, needs to walk more 6. Lotzkar -- Raw, maybe injured, but best starter package in org 7. Duran -- Just based on scouting 8. Roenicke -- Could be the next Dibble. 9. Valaika -- Can hit, unsure if MLB starter, defense unclear 10.Thompson -- Just based on that Yankee performance 11. Stewart -- Moving fast as reliever, seems to have great stuff 12. Dorn -- Platoon left fielder, very consistent minor league hitter 13. Cozart -- Hidden gem, org's true shortstop, will he hit? 14. Mesoraco -- Needs time to develop, first round talent 15. Lecure -- For awhile was super in AA last year, until injury 16. Fisher -- With ground ball stuff, good fit as reliever 17. Rodriguez -- Like Duran, based on scouting 18. Ramirez -- Has held up well in upper levels 19. Watson -- Performance must improve, apparently dynamite stuff 20. Turner -- May lack some projection, great make up, performs 21. J. Smith -- Did great at High A, ground balls, low WHIP, solid 22. Henry -- Looks like a solid fourth outfielder 23. Viola -- Inconsistent but can be effective from pen or starting 24. Hildenbrandt -- Needs to develop but seems to be class of GCL crop 25. Rosales -- See him as reserve, but gets bat on ball, versatile 26. Wood -- Smaller frame, needs to show has more than changeup 27. Buck -- Deserves mention due to pre-injury status 28. Tatum -- Didn't hit last year, still projects as defensive catcher 29. Manuel -- Not hyped for his projection, but good numbers 30. Waring -- More hype in '07, not giving up on him Notably missing -- Maloney. Would love to see him succeed as lefty starter, didn't happen in 2008. Honorable mention -- Bucholtz. Another good season and he rockets up the list. Last edited by Kc61; 11-05-2008 at 04:32 PM. |
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
Good thread idea. I'll get mine on here when I get a full list done, I've only thought about the first 15 or so.
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
My Top 40 Prospects
1. Yonder Alonso 2. Neftali Soto 3. Todd Frazier 4. Juan Francisco 5. Drew Stubbs 6. Juan Duran 7. Chris Valaika 8. Zach Stewart 9. Josh Roenicke 10. Yorman Rodriguez 11. Devin Mesoraco 12. Kyle Lotzkar 13. Danny Dorn 14. Carlos Fisher 15. Matt Maloney 16. Justin Turner 17. Sean Watson 18. Ismael Guillon 19. Chris Dickerson 20. Zach Cozart 21. Evan Hildenbrandt 22. Dallas Buck 23. Blaine Howell 24. Junior Arias 25. Sam Lecure 26. Terrell Young 27. Philippe Valiquette 28. Juan Carlos Sulbaran 29. Jordan Smith 30. Travis Wood 31. Daryl Thompson 32. Ramon Ramirez 33. Pedro Viola 34. Sean Henry 35. Shaun Cumberland 36. Jeremy Horst 37. Tyler Cline 38. Tyler Pelland 39. Daniel Morrison 40. Alex Buchholz |
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
1. Yonder Alonso- liked the pick
2. Todd Frazier- provides much needed right handed bat 3. Neftali Soto- This is not hype its production and at a very young age, he will have to work on his plate discipline at some point….won’t he? 4. Danny Dorn- Im going to treat anyone who could hit 25 hr’s in the majors as a regular rather than a platoon. 5. Chris Valaika- The reds seem to be content to leave him at ss for now 6. Daryl Thompson- needs to stay healthy 7. Kyle Lotzkar- ditto 8. Carlos Fisher- like the groundball tendencies 9. Devin Mesoraco- I’d keep him in Dayton for at least half the season 10. Juan Fransisco- Too much power to ignore, 11. Chris Dickerson- Only player on this list to OBP over .400 in MLB 12. Josh Roenicke- can’t live off a fastball alone, 13. Ramon Ramirez 14. Drew Stubbs- Serious doubts about him, I’d trade him while his value is high. At least his production has remained consistent. Brian Anderson proved lack of offense is not tolerated. 15. Zach Stewart- 16. Zach Cozart- Didn’t like this pick but he had a good year in Dayton, if he has a solid year next year he’ll jump into my top 10 17. Chris Heisey- I was a Denorfia fan as well 18. Juan Duran- too much money to ignore 19. Yorman Rodriguez- ditto 20. Adam Rosales- Rough slump to start the season before getting hot. He had 70 XBH the previous season. 21. Ryan Hanigan 22. Matt Maloney- 23. Justin Turner 24. Pedro Viola 25. Sam Lecure 26. Travis Wood 27. Jeremy Horst 28. Sean Watson 29. Evan Hildenbrandt 30. Sean Henry 31. Robert Manuel 32. Shaun Cumberland 33. Jordan Smith 34. Alex Buchholz 35. Alexander Smit 36. Byron Wiley 37. Ramon Geronimo 38. Juan Carlos Sulbaran 39. Ramon Geronimo 40. Miseal Dejesus 41. Danny Ray Herrera Players who I'll be interested to see how they perform, in no relevant order 1. Juan Aquino 2. Justin Reed 3. Shea Snowden 4. David Sappelt 5. Logan Parker 6. Jeff Jeffords 7. Scott Carroll 8. Cody Puckett 9. Andrew Means 10. Brandon Waring |
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
![]() These rankings are opinion, and everyone's entitled to their opinion. I'll only speak up if something is presented as a fact when it can be proven untrue. Also, I am glad everyone has figured out the origin of my username. I always wondered if people got that or not. |
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
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"On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me." |
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
1. Soto
2. Alonso 3. Francisco 4. Y. Rodriguez 5. Lotzkar 6. Dickerson 7. Stewart 8. Thompson 9. Hanigan 10. Frazier 11. Valaika 12. Duran 13. Stubbs 14. Mesoraco 15. Heisey 16. Horst 17. Buchholz 18. Hildenbrandt 19. Cozart 20. Fisher 21. Waring 22. Dorn 23. Sulbaran 24. Turner 25. Roenicke 26. R. Ramirez 27. I. Guillon 28. Viola 29. Herrera 30. Buck 31. Manuel 32. M. Thurman 33. Maloney 34. S. Snowden 35. J. Arias 36. D. Sappelt 37. Rosales 38. Tatum 39. R. Geronimo 40. Parker |
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Re: YOUR Top 40 Prospects
1. Yonder Alonso - polished approach, .300/.400/.550 caliber hitter
2. Neftali Soto - potential 30 homer, .900+ OPS hitter, few more walks would be nice 3. Todd Frazier - good combo of power/OBP, Youkilis-lite? 4. Drew Stubbs - gold glove caliber CFer, good OBP skills 5. Kyle Lotzkar - very young, electric stuff, potential ace 6. Daryl Thompson - potential solid big league starter, Arroyo with better velocity? 7. Chris Valaika - solid bat, potential .800 OPS hitter? 8. Juan Francisco - 35 to 40 homer power, improved plate discipline is key 9. Juan Duran - incredible talent, one of best hitting prospects to come out of Dominican Republic 10. Chris Dickerson - plus defender in CF with skills to be above average hitter 11. Danny Dorn - potential 30 homer guy, good OBP skills, needs to improve vs lefties 12. Zach Stewart - dominant stuff, potential shutdown reliever 13. Josh Roenicke - great fastball, needs to refine breaking ball, potential dominant relief arm 14. Yorman Rodriguez - incredible athlete, draws comparisons to Eric Davis and Cesar Cedeno 15. Carlos Fisher - great stuff with groundball tendencies, good major league reliever 16. Ramon Ramirez - plus changeup, solid fastball, chance to be solid big league starter or reliever 17. Matt Maloney - average fastball with quality curveball and changeup. Potential innings eating #4 starter 18. Dallas Buck - strong groundball tendencies, velocity will be key 19. Devin Mesoraco - still has some work to do, but still a good prospect 20. Zach Cozart - plus defender at shortstop, solid power, needs to work on plate discipline 21. Adam Rosales - big league utility player with solid power 22. Chris Heisey - good defender in CF with good OBP skills 23. Pedro Viola - good stuff, has a chance to be a quality lefty out of the pen 24. Jeremy Horst - good command of average stuff, potential back-end starter or lefty reliever 25. Alex Buchholz - big time bat, decent defender at second base 26. Evan Hildenbrandt - already has two above average pitches in fastball and curve 27. Justin Turner - utility type guy, Reds fans will love his all-out style of play 28. Sean Henry - solid player in mold of a Reed Johnson type 29. Juan Carlos Sulbaran - low 90's fastball with plus movement, quality curve and changeup. Could take a huge leap on this list next year 30. Travis Wood - plus changeup, command needs some work 31. Robert Manuel - average to slightly above average fastball with movement, good changeup and great command 32. Mace Thurman - potential steal in late rounds of 2008 draft, potential to be a good lefty out of pen 33. Junior Arias - only 16, slick fielding shortstop with good potential in bat 34. Sam Lecure - average stuff, maybe big league 5th starter/swing man 35. Jordan Smith - power arm with groundball tendencies 36. Ismael Guillon - 16 year old lefty, 88-92 mph heater with advanced changeup for his age 37. Philippe Valiquette - quality stuff, command is key 38. Carter Morrison - toolsy outfielder from Canada, big potential, possible steal 39. Ryan Hanigan - Already 28 years old, not much power, good OBP skills, solid defender, age is reason I dropped him so low... I do like him, he's a good story 40. Brandon Waring - solid defender with big power, needs to cut down on strikeouts *This could be subject to change. I sort of just threw this list together tonight.
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