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nate · 11-10-2008, 02:29 PM

Here

mbgrayson · 11-10-2008, 02:32 PM

The original source for this is Sports Illustrated.

Quote:

A's acquire Holliday from Rockies

By Jon Heyman, SI.com

The Oakland Athletics have acquired star outfielder Matt Holliday in a trade with the Colorado Rockies, SI.com has learned.

No word yet on who the A's gave up....

Strikes Out Looking · 11-10-2008, 02:33 PM

At the very least, it keeps him out of the NL Central.

RedLegSuperStar · 11-10-2008, 02:34 PM

Crap!

I thought he could be Reds bound..

jojo · 11-10-2008, 02:35 PM

Preliminary reports are that the Rockies will get Denorfia and Saarloos plus others....more names to follow....

redsfan30 · 11-10-2008, 02:35 PM

We keep our young studs and keep him out of the NL Central at least.

cincyinco · 11-10-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Strikes Out Looking

At the very least, it keeps him out of the NL Central.

How about out of the NL entirely, at least for a year.

mbgrayson · 11-10-2008, 02:37 PM

Quote:

By Jon Heyman, SI.com

The Oakland Athletics have acquired star outfielder Matt Holliday in a trade with the Colorado Rockies, SI.com has learned. The players Colorado will receive are not yet known.

Holliday is due to become a free agent after the 2009 season. He has spent his entire five-year career with the Rockies, is a two-time All-Star and helped them reach the 2007 World Series. He batted .321 with 25 home runs and 88 RBIs in 2008 in 139 games. It was his fourth straight .300 season, but his power numbers represented a noticeable decline from the previous two seasons when he averaged 35 HRs and 125 RBIs while playing in at least 155 games both years.

Previously, the Phillies and Cardinals were among the teams reportedly pursuing a trade for Holliday, but the Cardinals pulled out of the running over the weekend.

mbgrayson · 11-10-2008, 02:39 PM

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The Cardinals won't be celebrating a Holliday before Thanksgiving. Or for that matter, anytime, according to general manager John Mozeliak. Mozeliak insisted Sunday that discussions involving Colorado Rockies left fielder Matt Holliday have ceased and that "nothing is imminent. That one's not happening -- at all." Irritated that details of his discussions with Rockies general manager Dan O'Dowd had leaked, Mozeliak did not deny the seriousness of the talks but took exception to momentum assigned them. Mozeliak did not discuss specifics of his talks with the Rockies. However, Cardinals right fielder Ryan Ludwick remained a central name within the talks until their apparent breakdown. Misgivings existed within some quarters of the organization about committing multiple players for Holliday, who is eligible for free agency after next season while the arbitration-eligible Ludwick will make considerably less than Holliday's $13.5 million in 2009.
St. Louis Post-Dispatch

flyer85 · 11-10-2008, 02:39 PM

good news

redsfan30 · 11-10-2008, 02:39 PM

Playing a year in Oakland will either cement his reputation of being a product of Coors Field, or put it to bed completely.

If he produces well in Oakland in 2009 it will net him a bigger contract for 2010 and beyond than he would get right now.

RedsManRick · 11-10-2008, 02:40 PM

It works both ways, I see. Haren gets turned in to a bucket of prospects, allowing the A's to be in a position of strength. I imagine if the A's are out of the hunt in '09, they'll try to flip him before the deadline. If they're in it, they'll hang on to him and get their picks after the season.

RedLegSuperStar · 11-10-2008, 02:44 PM

My guess is:

Sean Gallagher/Gio Gonzalez
Huston Street
Javier Herrera

cincyinco · 11-10-2008, 02:47 PM

And on a personal note, I am glad that this should end all the holliday to the reds nonsense.

westofyou · 11-10-2008, 02:54 PM

One thing to ponder is him being flipped before he even plays, the A's park is not a hitters park by any stretch, it suppresses power and has never been a RH power park accept for 2 guys, the franchise in Oakland has a surprisingly weak RH power history outside of the Bash Brothers.

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OAKLAND A'S
CAREER
1969-2008
RIGHT HANDED HITTERS
SLG vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
 

OPS                             DIFF   PLAYER   LEAGUE     SLG      AB     
1    Mark McGwire               .193     .931     .739     .145     4448   
2    Jose Canseco               .119     .851     .732     .104     3970   
3    Gene Tenace                .111     .809     .698     .061     2458   
4    Rickey Henderson           .105     .839     .734     .028     6140   
5    Sal Bando                  .096     .798     .701     .056     4386   
6    Geronimo Berroa            .079     .859     .781     .064     1733   
7    Joe Rudi                   .066     .765     .700     .066     3769   
8    Dave Henderson             .049     .769     .720     .053     2553   
9    Eric Byrnes                .033     .799     .766     .032     1317   
10   Olmedo Saenz               .024     .800     .775     .018      930

11-10-2008, 02:29 PM	#1
nate High five! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 6,776	A's get Holliday Here __________________ "Bring on Rod Stupid!"

11-10-2008, 02:33 PM	#3
Strikes Out Looking Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,267	Re: A's get Holliday At the very least, it keeps him out of the NL Central.

11-10-2008, 02:34 PM	#4
RedLegSuperStar Greatness In The Making Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,078	Re: A's get Holliday Crap! I thought he could be Reds bound.. __________________ "I could watch video of Griffey swinging all day. It's like baseball porn." - C. Trent Rosecrans 2008 Reds Record When I Attend: 9W - 5L 2009 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 2L 2010 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 0L 2011 Reds Record When I Attend: 0W - 1L

11-10-2008, 02:35 PM	#5
jojo Five Tool Fool Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,575	Re: A's get Holliday Preliminary reports are that the Rockies will get Denorfia and Saarloos plus others....more names to follow.... __________________ "This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

11-10-2008, 02:35 PM	#6
redsfan30 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,545	Re: A's get Holliday We keep our young studs and keep him out of the NL Central at least. __________________ "Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill

11-10-2008, 02:39 PM	#10
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: A's get Holliday good news __________________ What are you, people? On dope? - Mr Hand

11-10-2008, 02:39 PM	#11
redsfan30 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,545	Re: A's get Holliday Playing a year in Oakland will either cement his reputation of being a product of Coors Field, or put it to bed completely. If he produces well in Oakland in 2009 it will net him a bigger contract for 2010 and beyond than he would get right now. __________________ "Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill

11-10-2008, 02:40 PM	#12
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,921	Re: A's get Holliday It works both ways, I see. Haren gets turned in to a bucket of prospects, allowing the A's to be in a position of strength. I imagine if the A's are out of the hunt in '09, they'll try to flip him before the deadline. If they're in it, they'll hang on to him and get their picks after the season. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

11-10-2008, 02:44 PM	#13
RedLegSuperStar Greatness In The Making Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,078	Re: A's get Holliday My guess is: Sean Gallagher/Gio Gonzalez Huston Street Javier Herrera __________________ "I could watch video of Griffey swinging all day. It's like baseball porn." - C. Trent Rosecrans 2008 Reds Record When I Attend: 9W - 5L 2009 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 2L 2010 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 0L 2011 Reds Record When I Attend: 0W - 1L

11-10-2008, 02:47 PM	#14
cincyinco We are the angry mob Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The 303 Posts: 2,479	Re: A's get Holliday And on a personal note, I am glad that this should end all the holliday to the reds nonsense. __________________ "I hate to advocate chemicals, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone... But they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson

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