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12-04-2008, 07:57 AM
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Khalil Green Traded To The Cards
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Khalil Green was dealt to St. Louis for two relievers. The Cards just signed Miller but their bullpen would seem to be depleated with this move. The relievers are yet to be announced.
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12-04-2008, 08:09 AM
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12-04-2008, 08:13 AM
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Re: Khalil Green Traded To The Cards
Geez, that seems a small price to pay for Green. I would have liked to have seen him in Cincy, particularly at that cost.
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12-04-2008, 08:23 AM
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Re: Khalil Green Traded To The Cards
That's all they got for him?!
 The Reds could have done something like that and heck, the Orioles (who need a SS in a very bad way) could have done something like that too. The market this year is turning out to be quite interesting (and slightly odd) and it's barely December. What's going to happen next? 
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12-04-2008, 08:47 AM
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Re: Khalil Green Traded To The Cards
Have the relievers been named? My understanding (from another report) is they are reliever prospects, if you believe in the existence of such a thing. And they are not necessarily on the major league roster.
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12-04-2008, 08:53 AM
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Re: Khalil Green Traded To The Cards
The two relievers are two prospects. This was a salary dump by the Padres.
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12-04-2008, 09:24 AM
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Re: Khalil Green Traded To The Cards
Potentially great move by the Cards, unless the prospects are really outstanding (which I doubt).
The Cards are paying about 1.5 million more for Greene than we're paying AGon, and Greene is a better defender, a better athlete, and has better offense upside (which may be unrealized). Greene might really benefit from a change of scenery. If my employer tried to avoid paying me for a couple months and I had to file a grievence, I'd have a bad attitude too. I understand the Reds had their hands somewhat tied because of the AGon millstone around their neck.
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12-04-2008, 09:25 AM
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Re: Khalil Green Traded To The Cards
Green at $6.5 million is not an awful value either, and would have filled a need on this team. Perhaps Jock has something better in the pipeline.
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12-04-2008, 09:32 AM
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Re: Khalil Green Traded To The Cards
Cardinals relievers prospects include Chris Perez, Fernando Salas, Luke Gregerson and Francisco Samuel.
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12-04-2008, 09:34 AM
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Re: Khalil Green Traded To The Cards
Am I the only one who's thankful the Reds didn't get Greene's .260 OBP and .339 SLG?
He is awful, awful, awful with the bat.
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12-04-2008, 09:47 AM
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Greene was hurt last year and spent most of the year annoying Padres management. At 6.5 million, he's not dramatically overpaid. Say he snaps back to career values (which I don't think would be unusual) and he hits 248/304/427 and then you give him a slight bumb for GAB and he's at 255/320/460 playing decent defense at shortstop. That's something the reds could use. I'll be looking to see what the Padres got in return. It may be that the reds just couldn't match the offer.
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12-04-2008, 09:50 AM
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12-04-2008, 09:53 AM
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12-04-2008, 10:06 AM
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Re: Khalil Green Traded To The Cards
Bumping Greene to a .320 OBP is generous, and if our mindset is that Khalil Greene is any kind of answer we are in trouble.
I want good players not just good value. The box score still shows lousy stats, no matter how much you pay for it.
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12-04-2008, 10:07 AM
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GAB may bump players power numbers, but I don't believe it bumps players OBA. It depends on the value of the prospects. I wouldn't give up much for one year of a $6.5M SS who can't get on base but with decent fielding and power potential. |
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