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UPRedsFan · 12-21-2008, 02:49 PM

Just thinking ahead on a cold, snowy December afternoon...

If Frazier and Alonzo make it someone will have to be traded. What lineup do you envision?

Dickerson CF
Phillips 2B
Votto LF
Bruce RF
Frazier 3B
Alonzo 1B
Hernandez C
Janish SS

or do we keep EE and trade Phillips and put Frazier at 2B? Or trade Dickerson and put Bruce in center and move both Votto and EE to the outfield? Interesting possibilities. In my book, Votto and Bruce stay. What's the best move?

Orodle · 12-21-2008, 03:55 PM

there is no point in thinking that far ahead in professional sports...especially baseball. Teams have such a high turn around rate from season beginning to season ending let alone season after this coming one.

With that being said I hope Janish isnt our starting SS. He'll do fine defensively but his bat isnt going to get it done as an everyday player.

BRM13 · 12-21-2008, 04:24 PM

The organization definitely needs to think about the next couple of years. They can't predict whether they want to trade Phillips or EE, but they need to think about various contingencies to see where they project to have depth or lack depth.

For example, they need to have some idea what they'll do if EE steps up this year. He'll be expensive (due to arbitration), but very good. What if he stays the same? Likewise, what do they do if Harang doesn't bounce back? What if one of the minor leaguers flames out or surprises on the upside? Walt and the rest of the front office almost certainly have rough outlines of how they might proceed in terms of budget/players for the major scenarios we can envision plus many more I haven't thought about.

NeilHamburger · 12-21-2008, 06:14 PM

What if we get an Albert Pujols type this spring (someone who comes from nowhere and becomes one of the best hitters in baseball)? What if we get two or three? It would be pretty sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VI_RedsFan · 12-21-2008, 07:15 PM

CF Stubbs/Dickerson
SS Valaika (I'd prefer him at 2B but until we get a good young shortstop, he'll be our guy)
1B Votto/Alonso (I have a feeling that were going to trade one of them)
RF Bruce
3B Encarnacion (Until Soto or Francisco are ready, unless he breaks out and improves his defense)
LF Frazier/Dorn
2B Phillips
C Hanigan

Rotation will likely be:

Volquez
Cueto (Yes, he's going to be our #2 by 2010, maybe even the ace)
Harang
Arroyo
Bailey/Owings/Ramirez

12-21-2008, 02:49 PM	#1
UPRedsFan Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 818	Thinking ahead to 2010 - 2011 Just thinking ahead on a cold, snowy December afternoon... If Frazier and Alonzo make it someone will have to be traded. What lineup do you envision? Dickerson CF Phillips 2B Votto LF Bruce RF Frazier 3B Alonzo 1B Hernandez C Janish SS or do we keep EE and trade Phillips and put Frazier at 2B? Or trade Dickerson and put Bruce in center and move both Votto and EE to the outfield? Interesting possibilities. In my book, Votto and Bruce stay. What's the best move?

12-21-2008, 04:24 PM	#3
BRM13 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 88	Re: Thinking ahead to 2010 - 2011 The organization definitely needs to think about the next couple of years. They can't predict whether they want to trade Phillips or EE, but they need to think about various contingencies to see where they project to have depth or lack depth. For example, they need to have some idea what they'll do if EE steps up this year. He'll be expensive (due to arbitration), but very good. What if he stays the same? Likewise, what do they do if Harang doesn't bounce back? What if one of the minor leaguers flames out or surprises on the upside? Walt and the rest of the front office almost certainly have rough outlines of how they might proceed in terms of budget/players for the major scenarios we can envision plus many more I haven't thought about.

12-21-2008, 06:14 PM	#4
NeilHamburger Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 531	Re: Thinking ahead to 2010 - 2011 What if we get an Albert Pujols type this spring (someone who comes from nowhere and becomes one of the best hitters in baseball)? What if we get two or three? It would be pretty sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-21-2008, 07:15 PM	#5
VI_RedsFan Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 721	Re: Thinking ahead to 2010 - 2011 CF Stubbs/Dickerson SS Valaika (I'd prefer him at 2B but until we get a good young shortstop, he'll be our guy) 1B Votto/Alonso (I have a feeling that were going to trade one of them) RF Bruce 3B Encarnacion (Until Soto or Francisco are ready, unless he breaks out and improves his defense) LF Frazier/Dorn 2B Phillips C Hanigan Rotation will likely be: Volquez Cueto (Yes, he's going to be our #2 by 2010, maybe even the ace) Harang Arroyo Bailey/Owings/Ramirez __________________ "Pam, I am public speaking...stop public interrupting me." -Michael Scott, "The Office" "His capa was detated from his head!" -Michael Scott on the death of his former boss, Ed Truck, "The Office"

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12-21-2008, 03:55 PM	#2
Orodle Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 539	Re: Thinking ahead to 2010 - 2011 there is no point in thinking that far ahead in professional sports...especially baseball. Teams have such a high turn around rate from season beginning to season ending let alone season after this coming one. With that being said I hope Janish isnt our starting SS. He'll do fine defensively but his bat isnt going to get it done as an everyday player.