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M2 · 05-13-2009, 11:33 AM

With the draft coming up I thought it might be fun to re-do the past drafts with the benefit of hindsight. I figure we can pick a top 30 from each of the last 10 drafts. There's no formal picking order, whoever posts gets to make the next selection. Posters can make multiple picks, just don't make two selections in a row.

Anyone selected in the draft for the year in question is eligible. How he was rated prior to the draft should not be considered. The only considerations are how he has played to date and what kind of future you think he has.

Let's keep the current picks listed with each new pick and then just bold the new selection. For instance:

1. Dude A
2. Dude B
3. Dude C
4. Dude D
5. New Dude

I'll kick it off with the first pick from 1999.

1. Albert Pujols

dougdirt · 05-13-2009, 11:47 AM

1. Albert Pujols
2. Jake Peavy

_Sir_Charles_ · 05-13-2009, 11:49 AM

Sure, I'll play.

1. Albert Pujols
2. Jake Peavy
3. Josh Beckett

For those unfamiliar with the 99 draft, here are a few notables. Harang, Sheets, Victorino, Bedard, Putz, Zito, Hamilton, C. Crawford, H. Blalock, Mench, C. Ross, Morneau, Ludwick, B. Phillips, B. Roberts, A. Rios. All in all, one of the better drafts. Quite a few duds in the first round though.

Good call on Peavy...I completely overlooked him.

dougdirt · 05-13-2009, 11:51 AM

Question... are we keeping it to only guys who signed from that draft? There were a few guys who were drafted, didn't sign and were later drafted again.

medford · 05-13-2009, 11:53 AM

1. Albert Pujols
2. Jake Peavy
3. Josh Beckett
4. Carl Crawford

Tough pick there, do you go w/ the early success of Zito, the later success of Harang or the speed, power & defense of Crawford. I'll go w/ Crawford.

M2 · 05-13-2009, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Question... are we keeping it to only guys who signed from that draft? There were a few guys who were drafted, didn't sign and were later drafted again.

I say make it anyone who was drafted. We can assume, knowing what you know now, you'd offer them enough cash to sign.

_Sir_Charles_ · 05-13-2009, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Question... are we keeping it to only guys who signed from that draft? There were a few guys who were drafted, didn't sign and were later drafted again.

I went with this list. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/history/draft....jsp?year=1999

_Sir_Charles_ · 05-13-2009, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M2

I say make it anyone who was drafted. We can assume, knowing what you know now, you'd offer them enough cash to sign.

If we're allowed to assume, can we assume that we drafted Jerry Narron along with Hamilton?

Just kidding.

dougdirt · 05-13-2009, 12:06 PM

1. Albert Pujols
2. Jake Peavy
3. Josh Beckett
4. Carl Crawford
5. Josh Hamilton - Keep him off the drugs, since we get hindsight and all.

M2 · 05-13-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

I went with this list. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/history/draft....jsp?year=1999

The BBR draft pages highlight the players who've made the majors, though you can only view one round at a time.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/dr...ft_type=junreg

_Sir_Charles_ · 05-13-2009, 12:13 PM

Ah, even better. Thanks M2.

1. Albert Pujols
2. Jake Peavy
3. Josh Beckett
4. Carl Crawford
5. Josh Hamilton
6. Justin Morneau

texasdave · 05-13-2009, 12:15 PM

I don't know how I did it but i got all the players from the 99 draft at baseball-reference.com.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/dr...ft_type=junreg

Ok, on second look I did not. I got all the pitchers. You can get all the players by each position.

M2 · 05-13-2009, 12:16 PM

1. Albert Pujols
2. Jake Peavy
3. Josh Beckett
4. Carl Crawford
5. Josh Hamilton
6. Justin Morneau
7. Barry Zito

Barry's going to grade out as one of the best pitchers of the past decade.

_Sir_Charles_ · 05-13-2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M2

Barry's going to grade out as one of the best pitchers of the past decade.

You really think so? I'll agree that he was good early in his career, but since to move to SF...yikes. 10-17 with a 5.15 last year. While poor, it's this stat that stands out for me. 120 k's, 102 walks.

texasdave · 05-13-2009, 12:32 PM

I am a little confused by the criteria. Are we going by who had the best career-to-date from the '99 draft? Or are we going by whom we would want today from the '99 draft? Because I would clearly rather see Aaron Harang on the mound today than Barry Zito. But Zito has put up better career numbers so far.

05-13-2009, 11:33 AM	#1
M2 Posting in Dynarama Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 26,809	Re-do a draft - 1999 With the draft coming up I thought it might be fun to re-do the past drafts with the benefit of hindsight. I figure we can pick a top 30 from each of the last 10 drafts. There's no formal picking order, whoever posts gets to make the next selection. Posters can make multiple picks, just don't make two selections in a row. Anyone selected in the draft for the year in question is eligible. How he was rated prior to the draft should not be considered. The only considerations are how he has played to date and what kind of future you think he has. Let's keep the current picks listed with each new pick and then just bold the new selection. For instance: 1. Dude A 2. Dude B 3. Dude C 4. Dude D 5. New Dude I'll kick it off with the first pick from 1999. 1. Albert Pujols __________________ Baseball isn't a magic trick ... it doesn't get spoiled if you figure out how it works. - gonelong I'm witchcrafting everybody. Last edited by M2; 05-13-2009 at 11:40 AM.

05-13-2009, 11:47 AM	#2
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 31,094	Re: Re-do a draft - 1999 1. Albert Pujols 2. Jake Peavy __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com Last edited by dougdirt; 05-13-2009 at 11:50 AM.

05-13-2009, 11:49 AM	#3
_Sir_Charles_ 2013 NL MVP and WS MVP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 6,651	Re: Re-do a draft - 1999 Sure, I'll play. 1. Albert Pujols 2. Jake Peavy 3. Josh Beckett For those unfamiliar with the 99 draft, here are a few notables. Harang, Sheets, Victorino, Bedard, Putz, Zito, Hamilton, C. Crawford, H. Blalock, Mench, C. Ross, Morneau, Ludwick, B. Phillips, B. Roberts, A. Rios. All in all, one of the better drafts. Quite a few duds in the first round though. Good call on Peavy...I completely overlooked him. __________________ “If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant’s life, she will choose to save the infant’s life without even considering if there is a man on base.” —Dave Barry Last edited by _Sir_Charles_; 05-13-2009 at 11:56 AM.

05-13-2009, 11:51 AM	#4
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 31,094	Re: Re-do a draft - 1999 Question... are we keeping it to only guys who signed from that draft? There were a few guys who were drafted, didn't sign and were later drafted again. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

05-13-2009, 11:53 AM	#5
medford Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,040	Re: Re-do a draft - 1999 1. Albert Pujols 2. Jake Peavy 3. Josh Beckett 4. Carl Crawford Tough pick there, do you go w/ the early success of Zito, the later success of Harang or the speed, power & defense of Crawford. I'll go w/ Crawford.

05-13-2009, 12:06 PM	#9
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 31,094	Re: Re-do a draft - 1999 1. Albert Pujols 2. Jake Peavy 3. Josh Beckett 4. Carl Crawford 5. Josh Hamilton - Keep him off the drugs, since we get hindsight and all. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

05-13-2009, 12:13 PM	#11
_Sir_Charles_ 2013 NL MVP and WS MVP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 6,651	Re: Re-do a draft - 1999 Ah, even better. Thanks M2. 1. Albert Pujols 2. Jake Peavy 3. Josh Beckett 4. Carl Crawford 5. Josh Hamilton 6. Justin Morneau __________________ “If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant’s life, she will choose to save the infant’s life without even considering if there is a man on base.” —Dave Barry

05-13-2009, 12:15 PM	#12
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,803	Re: Re-do a draft - 1999 I don't know how I did it but i got all the players from the 99 draft at baseball-reference.com. http://www.baseball-reference.com/dr...ft_type=junreg Ok, on second look I did not. I got all the pitchers. You can get all the players by each position.

05-13-2009, 12:16 PM	#13
M2 Posting in Dynarama Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 26,809	Re: Re-do a draft - 1999 1. Albert Pujols 2. Jake Peavy 3. Josh Beckett 4. Carl Crawford 5. Josh Hamilton 6. Justin Morneau 7. Barry Zito Barry's going to grade out as one of the best pitchers of the past decade. __________________ Baseball isn't a magic trick ... it doesn't get spoiled if you figure out how it works. - gonelong I'm witchcrafting everybody.

05-13-2009, 12:32 PM	#15
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,803	Re: Re-do a draft - 1999 I am a little confused by the criteria. Are we going by who had the best career-to-date from the '99 draft? Or are we going by whom we would want today from the '99 draft? Because I would clearly rather see Aaron Harang on the mound today than Barry Zito. But Zito has put up better career numbers so far.

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