Joey Votto is a lucky hitter - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

DTCromer · 06-26-2009, 04:39 PM

Why don't we trade him now that his value is higher than it should be?

GIDP · 06-26-2009, 04:48 PM

Because everyone knows hes not a .360 hitter and it isnt possible to keep a .410 BABIP because he has been lucky.

Let me guess you dont understand how BABIP works do you?

DTCromer · 06-26-2009, 05:02 PM

I know how BABIP works.

I'm just wondering why everyone is defending 1 guy for being "unlucky" and yet no one is saying anything about another guy being "lucky."

I'm just trying to provide a balance of views on these boards.

GIDP · 06-26-2009, 05:18 PM

Because a non lucky Votto is still quite good. Hes just playing at a freakish level right now because of luck.

GIDP · 06-26-2009, 05:19 PM

I also dont understand the thread, should we be bashing Votto in this thread or what?

keeganbrick · 06-26-2009, 05:24 PM

His amazingness/youngness and nevermind he is one of the best leaders this team has seen in a LONG time. But yea, lets trade him for some prospects : /

PhillipsHead · 06-26-2009, 05:26 PM

Blasphemy. I am officially ignoring this thread...

mroby85 · 06-26-2009, 06:48 PM

This is stupid. Is Pujols lucky? Some players must be consistently lucky every year, and others are unlucky. Poor Poor Edwin and Willy Taveras must be unlucky all the time lol.

DTCromer · 06-26-2009, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GIDP

I also dont understand the thread, should we be bashing Votto in this thread or what?

Have you not been reading the thoughts of the majority of most Reds fans on this board defending mediocre/awful hitting of 1 player?

Ghosts of 1990 · 06-26-2009, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mroby85

This is stupid. Is Pujols lucky? Some players must be consistently lucky every year, and others are unlucky. Poor Poor Edwin and Willy Taveras must be unlucky all the time lol.

no but Bruce is.

GIDP · 06-26-2009, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTCromer

Have you not been reading the thoughts of the majority of most Reds fans on this board defending mediocre/awful hitting of 1 player?

So should we be bashing Joey Votto? I'm not sure the purpose of this thread is.

Jefferson24 · 06-26-2009, 09:46 PM

these things have a way of evening out eventually. Joey will be a .285 hitter and Jay will hit .260.

mroby85 · 06-26-2009, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jefferson24

these things have a way of evening out eventually. Joey will be a .285 hitter and Jay will hit .260.

Votto isn't a 285 hitter, he hit 297 his rookie year. This thread is stupid.

xavr1 · 06-26-2009, 10:21 PM

Yeah Votto sucks. He is everything that is wrong with this team!

ukwazoo · 06-26-2009, 10:57 PM

I'm with ya, Cromer. Stat geeks get out of hand at times. I agree that stats have their place, but to say a .209 hitter is mainly unlucky is laughable. You can tell who has played the game and who hasn't.

06-26-2009, 04:39 PM	#1
DTCromer Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,325	Joey Votto is a lucky hitter Why don't we trade him now that his value is higher than it should be?

06-26-2009, 04:48 PM	#2
GIDP Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,419	Re: Joey Votto is a lucky hitter Because everyone knows hes not a .360 hitter and it isnt possible to keep a .410 BABIP because he has been lucky. Let me guess you dont understand how BABIP works do you?

06-26-2009, 05:02 PM	#3
DTCromer Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,325	Re: Joey Votto is a lucky hitter I know how BABIP works. I'm just wondering why everyone is defending 1 guy for being "unlucky" and yet no one is saying anything about another guy being "lucky." I'm just trying to provide a balance of views on these boards.

06-26-2009, 05:18 PM	#4
GIDP Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,419	Re: Joey Votto is a lucky hitter Because a non lucky Votto is still quite good. Hes just playing at a freakish level right now because of luck.

06-26-2009, 05:19 PM	#5
GIDP Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,419	Re: Joey Votto is a lucky hitter I also dont understand the thread, should we be bashing Votto in this thread or what?

06-26-2009, 05:24 PM	#6
keeganbrick Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,439	Re: Joey Votto is a lucky hitter His amazingness/youngness and nevermind he is one of the best leaders this team has seen in a LONG time. But yea, lets trade him for some prospects : / __________________ Cincinnati Reds VOTTO

06-26-2009, 05:26 PM	#7
PhillipsHead Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 245	Re: Joey Votto is a lucky hitter Blasphemy. I am officially ignoring this thread...

06-26-2009, 06:48 PM	#8
mroby85 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,281	Re: Joey Votto is a lucky hitter This is stupid. Is Pujols lucky? Some players must be consistently lucky every year, and others are unlucky. Poor Poor Edwin and Willy Taveras must be unlucky all the time lol. Last edited by mroby85; 06-26-2009 at 06:51 PM.

06-26-2009, 09:46 PM	#12
Jefferson24 Plan to be spontaneous Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Illinios Posts: 1,178	Re: Joey Votto is a lucky hitter these things have a way of evening out eventually. Joey will be a .285 hitter and Jay will hit .260. __________________ We only live in patches. - H. G. Wells

06-26-2009, 10:21 PM	#14
xavr1 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus Posts: 336	Re: Joey Votto is a lucky hitter Yeah Votto sucks. He is everything that is wrong with this team!

06-26-2009, 10:57 PM	#15
ukwazoo Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Louisville, KY via Orlando, FL Posts: 426	Re: Joey Votto is a lucky hitter I'm with ya, Cromer. Stat geeks get out of hand at times. I agree that stats have their place, but to say a .209 hitter is mainly unlucky is laughable. You can tell who has played the game and who hasn't. __________________ "Why's he keep callin' me meat? I'm the guy drivin' a Porsche." - Calvin LaLoosh Moneyball = Mulder, Hudson, Zito

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