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Old 07-21-2009, 07:42 PM   #1
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Would you trade Chris Heisey for....

Or Stubbs if the White Sox preferred him to replace DeWayne Wise instead of Heisey....

....and include EE and Harang for Beckham? Would that be enough to get Beckham, as EE could even DH some and Heisey/Stubbs would be good prospects, and the right-handed Harang would balance out their L-L-R-L Top-4 starters?
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:56 PM   #2
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Re: Would you trade Chris Heisey for....

Good question. So Heisey/Stubbs, EE, and Harang for Beckham. I think I'd do it just to get rid of Harang's salary and just get rid of Edwin.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:19 PM   #3
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Id rather just play Todd Frazier at 3B and keep my talent.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:23 PM   #4
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Too much IMO so no. I would do Harang and have them pick one of the others but not 3 players.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:39 PM   #5
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Id rather just play Todd Frazier at 3B and keep my talent.
Pretty sure the idea would be to play Beckham at SS.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:42 PM   #6
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Pretty sure the idea would be to play Beckham at SS.
Then I would rather play Cozart at SS since he can actually play there.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:00 PM   #7
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Then I would rather play Cozart at SS since he can actually play there.
So can Beckham and he'll give you something with the bat, too. That's why the Blue Jays want to trade Halliday for him...to play SS (not 3B.) That's why Ozzie Guillen said he has no problem playing him at SS (as well as 2B and 3B) so long as he can get him in the lineup. You know, because he "can't play there."

But the Reds, last in the league in batting, would be better off with Zach Cozart.

Of course, for blind FO supporters, it's mighty convenient if you can convince everybody that he "can't play there," because then nobody can say we should've taken Beckham instead of Alonso (which we should have.)

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Old 07-21-2009, 10:34 PM   #8
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Pretty sure the idea would be to play Beckham at SS.
If Beckham could play SS he would be playing there and we would have drafted him.

Trading Heisey/Stubbs plus EE plus Harang would be trading a ton of talent for a guy we can likely replace from the minor leagues from our best organizational depth position.

Just a horrible trade.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:56 PM   #9
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So can Beckham and he'll give you something with the bat, too. That's why the Blue Jays want to trade Halliday for him...to play SS (not 3B.) That's why Ozzie Guillen said he has no problem playing him at SS (as well as 2B and 3B) so long as he can get him in the lineup. You know, because he "can't play there."

But the Reds, last in the league in batting, would be better off with Zach Cozart.

Of course, for blind FO supporters, it's mighty convenient if you can convince everybody that he "can't play there," because then nobody can say we should've taken Beckham instead of Alonso (which we should have.)
Beckham isn't a shortstop. Someone might let him play SS, but he won't be a good fielder there. It has nothing to do with our front office and everything to do with the majority of talent evaluators who say he can't play shortstop defensively at the major league level.
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:32 AM   #10
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all those guys mentioned should be traded for an proven major league all star
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:53 AM   #11
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If Beckham could play SS he would be playing there and we would have drafted him.

Trading Heisey/Stubbs plus EE plus Harang would be trading a ton of talent for a guy we can likely replace from the minor leagues from our best organizational depth position.

Just a horrible trade.
Don't the White Sox have a pretty good young SS? That may be the biggest reason that Beckham isn't playing SS.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:02 AM   #12
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If Beckham could play SS he would be playing there and we would have drafted him.

if Tim Lincecum had any future, we'd have drafted him as well.

Reds would have a much better team now and a brighter future had they drafted Beckham. So it goes.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:36 AM   #13
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if Tim Lincecum had any future, we'd have drafted him as well.

Reds would have a much better team now and a brighter future had they drafted Beckham. So it goes.
You may be right about Beckham. But if the Reds drafted him he would be at AA.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:38 AM   #14
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I like Todd Fraziers future at 3rd much more than I like Beckhams.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:59 PM   #15
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if the Reds drafted him he would be at AA.
Reds fans are conditioned for defeat.

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I like Todd Fraziers future at 3rd much more than I like Beckhams.
major league numbers on one side of scale, AA numbers on the other... does not look good for Todd.

Wait-- let me pour two quarts of Kool-Aid on the AA side. There-- you're right. Todd Frazier rocks.
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