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RedEye · 08-19-2009, 10:39 PM

I can't watch the games so I'm curious if anyone caught Stubbs in his debut this evening. Obviously, we're talking a small sample size, but does he look as-advertised in the field and on the basepaths? How does he carry himself as a player? For some reason, I've always thought he was the type of guy whose game would develop gradually, and I still have hopes that he'll be Mike Cameron all over again. Anyone got visual evidence to support my hopes?

HeatherC1212 · 08-19-2009, 10:45 PM

He is definitely fast (got his first major league hit to shallow right field and ran it into a double) so I think that's as advertised but not much was hit to center field tonight so we didn't get to see him much in the field. One hit went slightly to his left and he couldn't quite catch up to it but that was back in the first inning and he had to be a nervous wreck at that point. I think now that he's gotten his first hit out of the way and his first official game in the books that he'll be more relaxed and ready to go tomorrow. I don't think he had a bad debut but it wasn't too much to write home about either.

oneupper · 08-19-2009, 10:47 PM

CF just went from trainwreck to meh.

RedEye · 08-19-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by oneupper

CF just went from trainwreck to meh.

Really? You mean defensively or overall?

LoganBuck · 08-19-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by oneupper

CF just went from trainwreck to meh.

Baby steps

If meh can eventually mean replacement level offense with superior defense I scream "Hell Yeah"!

HeatherC1212 · 08-19-2009, 11:04 PM

Drew had more hits tonight than Willy usually gets in one night, LOL

Tornon · 08-19-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HeatherC1212

Drew had more hits tonight than Willy usually gets in one night, LOL

Maybe a week even

corkedbat · 08-19-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tornon

Maybe a week even

Actually, Willy has weaks

Patrick Bateman · 08-19-2009, 11:24 PM

I liked his composure in his last at-bat. Would have been easy to start hacking down 0-2, but he battled back, and if not for a terrible call he would have walked against Wilson to set-up the 9th inning.

Had a really bad at-bat his 2nd time around against Zito. Took 2 pitches down the middle and then went hacking on a pitch in the dirt. Looked like he took a few strikes for the sake of it, and put himself in a bad position to end the at-bat.

BTW, the flyball heather was talking about was not catchable. He got a good jump on the ball and took a good route, it was just destined for the gap.

WVRedsFan · 08-20-2009, 12:03 AM

He looked to be an improvement in CF, but plays below Dickerson FWIW. We now have another 4th outfielder on the roster with superior defensive skills and speed. I don't think he's the solution either short or long term, but the kid will be useful.

dougdirt · 08-20-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

Had a really bad at-bat his 2nd time around against Zito. Took 2 pitches down the middle and then went hacking on a pitch in the dirt. Looked like he took a few strikes for the sake of it, and put himself in a bad position to end the at-bat.

That has been my complaint about Stubbs this year. He tends to take good pitches earlier in the count simply to get deeper into counts. I hope someone can help him figure out that walks are good, but don't take meat pitches simply to take pitches.

Patrick Bateman · 08-20-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

That has been my complaint about Stubbs this year. He tends to take good pitches earlier in the count simply to get deeper into counts. I hope someone can help him figure out that walks are good, but don't take meat pitches simply to take pitches.

Ya, there's definitely a big difference between being selective, and just taking pitches.

I thought tonight was more of the latter.

redsfandan · 08-20-2009, 07:22 AM

I like how he looked in stretching the single into a double.
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/media...=cin&topic_id=
If he keeps that up and can manage a decent obp we may have something.

membengal · 08-20-2009, 07:58 AM

He was 50% of their offense last night, so, he was teh awesome!

osuceltic · 08-20-2009, 08:12 AM

Needs to hit the weight room. Upper body looks kind of weak. This never would have happened five years ago.

08-19-2009, 10:39 PM	#1
RedEye Ojo Rojo Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Moving to Atlanta in July Posts: 4,441	So how did Stubbs look out there? I can't watch the games so I'm curious if anyone caught Stubbs in his debut this evening. Obviously, we're talking a small sample size, but does he look as-advertised in the field and on the basepaths? How does he carry himself as a player? For some reason, I've always thought he was the type of guy whose game would develop gradually, and I still have hopes that he'll be Mike Cameron all over again. Anyone got visual evidence to support my hopes? __________________ "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear." - Norm (George Wendt), Cheers

08-19-2009, 10:45 PM	#2
HeatherC1212 Joey Votto Fangirl Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2,520	Re: So how did Stubbs look out there? He is definitely fast (got his first major league hit to shallow right field and ran it into a double) so I think that's as advertised but not much was hit to center field tonight so we didn't get to see him much in the field. One hit went slightly to his left and he couldn't quite catch up to it but that was back in the first inning and he had to be a nervous wreck at that point. I think now that he's gotten his first hit out of the way and his first official game in the books that he'll be more relaxed and ready to go tomorrow. I don't think he had a bad debut but it wasn't too much to write home about either. __________________ "I tried to play golf, but I found out I wasn't very good." -Joey Votto on his offseason hobby search An MLB.com reporter asked what one thing Votto couldn’t do. “I can’t skate or play hockey,” Votto said. “Well, I can skate ... but I can’t stop.”

08-19-2009, 10:47 PM	#3
oneupper Danger is my business! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Back in Florida Posts: 7,859	Re: So how did Stubbs look out there? CF just went from trainwreck to meh. __________________ "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." http://dalmady.blogspot.com

08-19-2009, 11:04 PM	#6
HeatherC1212 Joey Votto Fangirl Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2,520	Re: So how did Stubbs look out there? Drew had more hits tonight than Willy usually gets in one night, LOL __________________ "I tried to play golf, but I found out I wasn't very good." -Joey Votto on his offseason hobby search An MLB.com reporter asked what one thing Votto couldn’t do. “I can’t skate or play hockey,” Votto said. “Well, I can skate ... but I can’t stop.”

08-19-2009, 11:24 PM	#9
Patrick Bateman One and a half men Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 5,464	Re: So how did Stubbs look out there? I liked his composure in his last at-bat. Would have been easy to start hacking down 0-2, but he battled back, and if not for a terrible call he would have walked against Wilson to set-up the 9th inning. Had a really bad at-bat his 2nd time around against Zito. Took 2 pitches down the middle and then went hacking on a pitch in the dirt. Looked like he took a few strikes for the sake of it, and put himself in a bad position to end the at-bat. BTW, the flyball heather was talking about was not catchable. He got a good jump on the ball and took a good route, it was just destined for the gap.

08-20-2009, 12:03 AM	#10
WVRedsFan Lime in da Coconut Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Rainelle, WV Posts: 7,712	Re: So how did Stubbs look out there? He looked to be an improvement in CF, but plays below Dickerson FWIW. We now have another 4th outfielder on the roster with superior defensive skills and speed. I don't think he's the solution either short or long term, but the kid will be useful. __________________ www.ris-news.com "The price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that someday they might force their beliefs on us." Mario Cuomo "You only have to bat a thousand in two things; flying and heart transplants. Everything else you can go 4-for-5." -Beano Cook

08-20-2009, 07:22 AM	#13
redsfandan Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,361	Re: So how did Stubbs look out there? I like how he looked in stretching the single into a double. http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/media...=cin&topic_id= If he keeps that up and can manage a decent obp we may have something. __________________ "Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."

08-20-2009, 07:58 AM	#14
membengal Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Baltimore Posts: 8,383	Re: So how did Stubbs look out there? He was 50% of their offense last night, so, he was teh awesome!

08-20-2009, 08:12 AM	#15
osuceltic Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 1,291	Re: So how did Stubbs look out there? Needs to hit the weight room. Upper body looks kind of weak. This never would have happened five years ago.

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