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OnBaseMachine · 10-07-2009, 01:29 PM

I'm planning on starting the Redszone top 40 prospect polls later this week or early next week and before I start I'd like see who Redszone thinks should be on the first ballot. I'm going to try to limit the first poll to roughly 8-10 choices. Guys like Alonso and Frazier are obvious choices but I'm interested in seeing who else is nominated as a realistic option on the first poll.

Below is our top 40 from last offseason. I bolded the names of prospects who lost their prospect eligibility or are no longer in the Reds organization.

Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso
Prospect #2 - Todd Frazier
Prospect #3 - Neftali Soto
Prospect #4 - Drew Stubbs
Prospect #5 - Chris Valaika
Prospect #6 - Kyle Lotzkar
Prospect #7 - Daryl Thompson
Prospect #8 - Juan Francisco
Prospect #9 - Juan Duran
Prospect #10 - Chris Dickerson
Prospect #11 - Devin Mesoraco
Prospect #12 - Danny Dorn
Prospect #13 - Yorman Rodriguez
Prospect #14 - Zach Stewart
Prospect #15 - Josh Roenicke
Prospect #16 - Ramon Ramirez
Prospect #17 - Zack Cozart
Prospect #18 - Matt Maloney
Prospect #19 - Carlos Fisher
Prospect #20 - Chris Heisey
Prospect #21 - Ryan Hanigan
Prospect #22 - Dallas Buck
Prospect #23 - Adam Rosales
Prospect #24 - Alex Buchholz
Prospect #25 - Travis Wood
Prospect #26 - Jeremy Horst
Prospect #27 - Pedro Viola
Prospect #28 - Evan Hildenbrandt
Prospect #29 - Juan Carlos Sulbaran
Prospect #30 - Sam Lecure
Prospect #31 - Robert Manuel
Prospect #32 - Sean Henry
Prospect #33 - Danny Ray Herrera
Prospect #34 - Sean Watson
Prospect #35 - Ismael Guillon
Prospect #36 - Ben Jukich
Prospect #37 - Junior Arias
Prospect #38 - Jordan Smith
Prospect #39 - Dave Sappelt
Prospect #40 - Phil Valiquette

RedlegJake · 10-07-2009, 01:33 PM

Alonso
Frazier
Wood
Francisco
Cozart
Soto
Duran
Rodriguez
Heisey
Thompson

My top ten choices for the first ballot but it could really be just the first 5, imo.

OnBaseMachine · 10-07-2009, 01:36 PM

My choices in no particular order:

Yonder Alonso, Yorman Rodriguez, Mike Leake, Todd Frazier, Chris Heisey, Travis Wood, Juan Francisco, Zack Cozart.

Brutus · 10-07-2009, 01:51 PM

Alonso, Frazier, Yorman Rodriguez, Leake, Heisey, Wood, Francisco, Cozart, Silva, Jacob Johnson and Neftali Soto

Kc61 · 10-07-2009, 02:00 PM

Valaika, Mesoraco, Sulbaran, Dorn should also be on. Maloney if eligible.

lollipopcurve · 10-07-2009, 02:10 PM

Ondrusek, Rojas and Wiley

Homer Bailey · 10-07-2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

Alonso, Frazier, Yorman Rodriguez, Leake, Heisey, Wood, Francisco, Cozart, Silva, Jacob Johnson and Neftali Soto

I'll go with this except I don't know enough about Silva or Johnson.

camisadelgolf · 10-07-2009, 02:16 PM

It's hard for me to come up with only 10 names. Here are the first 15 that popped in my head (and I'm sure I'm forgetting other that I would consider for the top 10).
Alonso
Frazier
Soto
Mesoraco
Duran
Rodriguez
Valaika
Maloney
Dorn
Wood
Lotzkar
Francisco
Leake
Boxberger
Cozart

mace · 10-07-2009, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lollipopcurve

Ondrusek, Rojas and Wiley

I almost always agree with lollipop.

Other guys who haven't been mentioned who I think should at least be considered in the top half or so of the list:

Serrano
Thurman
Klinker
Gregorius
Del Rosario
Joseph
Tuttle
Cline
Viola
Fairel

Guess I'm a pitching guy.

Kc61 · 10-07-2009, 03:12 PM

Jordan Smith was in the top fifteen of BA's Reds prospects last year. I think he was number 13. He was doing ok at AA this year then got hurt. He never gets votes in these polls.

Not sure where he fits in, but let's keep him in mind.

*BaseClogger* · 10-07-2009, 03:51 PM

Why limit the poll to only 8 or 10 choices? The more options there are the better our results will be. Why don't you get a large group of about 20 prospects and take guys off who don't receive votes two polls in a row?

dougdirt · 10-07-2009, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*

Why limit the poll to only 8 or 10 choices? The more options there are the better our results will be. Why don't you get a large group of about 20 prospects and take guys off who don't receive votes two polls in a row?

Well to be honest, are there really even 8-10 choices for the #1 prospect in the system? At best I can see 4 choices in the running for #1.

redhawk61 · 10-07-2009, 04:23 PM

First ballot should be a competition between

Alonso, Leake, Fraizer, Yorman, and Fransisco...and coincidently that is my top 5 in order.

Those 5 all could have an argument made for them being #1:

Alonso (High AVG, High OBP, Good SLG)
Leake (Best pitching prospect in the system)
Fraizer (Solid, polished all around hitter, and versatile in the field. Probably the best bet to be at least a league average player)
Yorman (Highest upside of anyone in the system)
Fransisco (Arguably one of, if not, the best power hitter in the system, with great contact skills for a power hitter)

cincyinco · 10-07-2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Well to be honest, are there really even 8-10 choices for the #1 prospect in the system? At best I can see 4 choices in the running for #1.

I think its even less than that Doug, but on the whole, I agree.

BuckeyeRedleg · 10-07-2009, 04:59 PM

I wonder where Zach Stewart would have been ranked.

Is it me or does it all of a sudden seem like this organization is pretty bare? I'm thinking the system will be ranked somewhere in the 20's by BA next spring. That's down from #14 (2009), #3 (2008), and #12 (2007).

Maybe it's all that talent that has graduated to the big league level.

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10-07-2009, 01:29 PM	#1
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,692	Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot? I'm planning on starting the Redszone top 40 prospect polls later this week or early next week and before I start I'd like see who Redszone thinks should be on the first ballot. I'm going to try to limit the first poll to roughly 8-10 choices. Guys like Alonso and Frazier are obvious choices but I'm interested in seeing who else is nominated as a realistic option on the first poll. Below is our top 40 from last offseason. I bolded the names of prospects who lost their prospect eligibility or are no longer in the Reds organization. Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso Prospect #2 - Todd Frazier Prospect #3 - Neftali Soto Prospect #4 - Drew Stubbs Prospect #5 - Chris Valaika Prospect #6 - Kyle Lotzkar Prospect #7 - Daryl Thompson Prospect #8 - Juan Francisco Prospect #9 - Juan Duran Prospect #10 - Chris Dickerson Prospect #11 - Devin Mesoraco Prospect #12 - Danny Dorn Prospect #13 - Yorman Rodriguez Prospect #14 - Zach Stewart Prospect #15 - Josh Roenicke Prospect #16 - Ramon Ramirez Prospect #17 - Zack Cozart Prospect #18 - Matt Maloney Prospect #19 - Carlos Fisher Prospect #20 - Chris Heisey Prospect #21 - Ryan Hanigan Prospect #22 - Dallas Buck Prospect #23 - Adam Rosales Prospect #24 - Alex Buchholz Prospect #25 - Travis Wood Prospect #26 - Jeremy Horst Prospect #27 - Pedro Viola Prospect #28 - Evan Hildenbrandt Prospect #29 - Juan Carlos Sulbaran Prospect #30 - Sam Lecure Prospect #31 - Robert Manuel Prospect #32 - Sean Henry Prospect #33 - Danny Ray Herrera Prospect #34 - Sean Watson Prospect #35 - Ismael Guillon Prospect #36 - Ben Jukich Prospect #37 - Junior Arias Prospect #38 - Jordan Smith Prospect #39 - Dave Sappelt Prospect #40 - Phil Valiquette Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 10-07-2009 at 01:33 PM.

10-07-2009, 01:33 PM	#2
RedlegJake Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North Kansas City, Mo Posts: 3,944	Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot? Alonso Frazier Wood Francisco Cozart Soto Duran Rodriguez Heisey Thompson My top ten choices for the first ballot but it could really be just the first 5, imo.

10-07-2009, 01:36 PM	#3
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,692	Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot? My choices in no particular order: Yonder Alonso, Yorman Rodriguez, Mike Leake, Todd Frazier, Chris Heisey, Travis Wood, Juan Francisco, Zack Cozart.

10-07-2009, 01:51 PM	#4
Brutus Et tu, Brutus? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 9,084	Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot? Alonso, Frazier, Yorman Rodriguez, Leake, Heisey, Wood, Francisco, Cozart, Silva, Jacob Johnson and Neftali Soto __________________ "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

10-07-2009, 02:00 PM	#5
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,043	Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot? Valaika, Mesoraco, Sulbaran, Dorn should also be on. Maloney if eligible.

10-07-2009, 02:10 PM	#6
lollipopcurve Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shelburne Falls, MA Posts: 9,579	Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot? Ondrusek, Rojas and Wiley __________________ "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

10-07-2009, 02:16 PM	#8
camisadelgolf Vampire Weekend @Bernie's Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 11,311	Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot? It's hard for me to come up with only 10 names. Here are the first 15 that popped in my head (and I'm sure I'm forgetting other that I would consider for the top 10). Alonso Frazier Soto Mesoraco Duran Rodriguez Valaika Maloney Dorn Wood Lotzkar Francisco Leake Boxberger Cozart

10-07-2009, 03:12 PM	#10
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,043	Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot? Jordan Smith was in the top fifteen of BA's Reds prospects last year. I think he was number 13. He was doing ok at AA this year then got hurt. He never gets votes in these polls. Not sure where he fits in, but let's keep him in mind.

10-07-2009, 03:51 PM	#11
BaseClogger WOOOOO!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 6,103	Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot? Why limit the poll to only 8 or 10 choices? The more options there are the better our results will be. Why don't you get a large group of about 20 prospects and take guys off who don't receive votes two polls in a row? __________________ "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

10-07-2009, 04:23 PM	#13
redhawk61 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 1,064	Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot? First ballot should be a competition between Alonso, Leake, Fraizer, Yorman, and Fransisco...and coincidently that is my top 5 in order. Those 5 all could have an argument made for them being #1: Alonso (High AVG, High OBP, Good SLG) Leake (Best pitching prospect in the system) Fraizer (Solid, polished all around hitter, and versatile in the field. Probably the best bet to be at least a league average player) Yorman (Highest upside of anyone in the system) Fransisco (Arguably one of, if not, the best power hitter in the system, with great contact skills for a power hitter) Last edited by redhawk61; 10-07-2009 at 04:30 PM.

10-07-2009, 04:59 PM	#15
BuckeyeRedleg Will post for food Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dublin, OH Posts: 5,127	Re: Reds Top 40 prospects (2009) - Who should appear on first ballot? I wonder where Zach Stewart would have been ranked. Is it me or does it all of a sudden seem like this organization is pretty bare? I'm thinking the system will be ranked somewhere in the 20's by BA next spring. That's down from #14 (2009), #3 (2008), and #12 (2007). Maybe it's all that talent that has graduated to the big league level.