Dusty's job might not be safe? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Homer Bailey · 10-10-2009, 05:10 PM

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,1352594.story

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Dusty Baker may not be as safe in Cincinnati as the Reds' strong finish would suggest. Owner Bob Castellini reportedly has his eye on the Cardinals tandem of manager Tony La Russa and pitching coach Dave Duncan. ... Another former Cubs manager, Don Baylor, is being mentioned as a candidate for the vacancy in Houston, but general manager Ed Wade is trying to sell Jim Fregosi to owner Drayton McLane. ...

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RedLegSuperStar · 10-10-2009, 05:12 PM

Fine with me.. Cueto and Bailey would welcome the move

RedsManRick · 10-10-2009, 05:13 PM

I'm not a huge LaRussa fan, but if he came with Duncan, I'd be all for it. At least the guy knows how to make out a lineup card. If Taveras is in the lineup, LaRussa would have him batting 9th.

hebroncougar · 10-10-2009, 05:36 PM

This would be way, way too smart of a move for this organization to make. I can only hope.

kaldaniels · 10-10-2009, 05:38 PM

Personal vendettas against LaRussa aside...how does one make the argument that replacing Baker with LaRussa could be a bad thing?

Tom Servo · 10-10-2009, 05:51 PM

But think of all of the pre-bought toothpicks!

RedLegSuperStar · 10-10-2009, 05:51 PM

If.. Big IF we nab the two.. Would we give them a team that can produce runs.. Perhaps a payroll like the Cards?

Screwball · 10-10-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kaldaniels

Personal vendettas against LaRussa aside...how does one make the argument that replacing Baker with LaRussa could be a bad thing?

Baker's less drunk?

_Sir_Charles_ · 10-10-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar

If.. Big IF we nab the two.. Would we give them a team that can produce runs.. Perhaps a payroll like the Cards?

There's the rub. Having a great coach is all fine and good. But at the end of the day, the onus falls on the players. I simply don't think the manager has THAT much impact. At least not so much that he should eat up a significant portion of our payroll budget. And that tandem most certainly would.

Reds4Life · 10-10-2009, 06:03 PM

Would be nice, but I don't see it happening.

If LaRussa wants to contine, and not retire, I think the Cards will give him another contract. What incentive does LaRussa have to leave St. Louis and come to Cincinnati? Not much that I can think of.

Plus, we'd have to payout Dusty, plus pay Tony and Dave. LaRussa and Duncan aren't going to come cheap. That would be A LOT of money tied up in a manager, former manager, and pitching coach.

pedro · 10-10-2009, 06:15 PM

I hate Tony Larussa.

HATE.

There I said it.

I'd rather have Bob Boone back.

Team Clark · 10-10-2009, 06:37 PM

For all the grief that fans give LaRussa, the guy wins. Just sayin'

KoryMac5 · 10-10-2009, 06:38 PM

Larussa is > than Baker but will cost more than Baker's 3.5 million dollar price tag. I still can't see Cast paying 5 million+ for Larussa and Duncan while having to eat the rest of Baker's contract. If that happens I can't see Walt making any significant signings this offseason.

westofyou · 10-10-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pedro

I hate Tony Larussa.

HATE.

There I said it.

I'd rather have Bob Boone back.

Let's go get a guy in his 60's and on his fourth job... who also still lives on the west coast.....that will work.

steig · 10-10-2009, 06:56 PM

Imagine Marty announcing the games with LaRussa as the Reds manager.

10-10-2009, 05:12 PM	#2
RedLegSuperStar Greatness In The Making Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,078	Re: Dusty's job might not be safe? Fine with me.. Cueto and Bailey would welcome the move __________________ "I could watch video of Griffey swinging all day. It's like baseball porn." - C. Trent Rosecrans 2008 Reds Record When I Attend: 9W - 5L 2009 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 2L 2010 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 0L 2011 Reds Record When I Attend: 0W - 1L

10-10-2009, 05:13 PM	#3
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,910	Re: Dusty's job might not be safe? I'm not a huge LaRussa fan, but if he came with Duncan, I'd be all for it. At least the guy knows how to make out a lineup card. If Taveras is in the lineup, LaRussa would have him batting 9th. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

10-10-2009, 05:36 PM	#4
hebroncougar Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,015	Re: Dusty's job might not be safe? This would be way, way too smart of a move for this organization to make. I can only hope.

10-10-2009, 05:38 PM	#5
kaldaniels Viva la Rolen Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,303	Re: Dusty's job might not be safe? Personal vendettas against LaRussa aside...how does one make the argument that replacing Baker with LaRussa could be a bad thing?

10-10-2009, 05:51 PM	#6
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,385	Re: Dusty's job might not be safe? But think of all of the pre-bought toothpicks! __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

10-10-2009, 06:03 PM	#10
Reds4Life Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 3,918	Re: Dusty's job might not be safe? Would be nice, but I don't see it happening. If LaRussa wants to contine, and not retire, I think the Cards will give him another contract. What incentive does LaRussa have to leave St. Louis and come to Cincinnati? Not much that I can think of. Plus, we'd have to payout Dusty, plus pay Tony and Dave. LaRussa and Duncan aren't going to come cheap. That would be A LOT of money tied up in a manager, former manager, and pitching coach. __________________ Pessimists are well informed optimists

10-10-2009, 06:15 PM	#11
pedro Please come again Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: portland, oregon Posts: 14,716	Re: Dusty's job might not be safe? I hate Tony Larussa. HATE. There I said it. I'd rather have Bob Boone back. __________________ Get your nunchucks and the keys to your dad's car. I know where we can get a gun

10-10-2009, 06:38 PM	#13
KoryMac5 Kmac5 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waterloo, NY Posts: 3,661	Re: Dusty's job might not be safe? Larussa is > than Baker but will cost more than Baker's 3.5 million dollar price tag. I still can't see Cast paying 5 million+ for Larussa and Duncan while having to eat the rest of Baker's contract. If that happens I can't see Walt making any significant signings this offseason. __________________ If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.

10-10-2009, 06:56 PM	#15
steig Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Centerville,OH Posts: 635	Re: Dusty's job might not be safe? Imagine Marty announcing the games with LaRussa as the Reds manager.

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