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Old 10-23-2009, 12:35 PM   #1
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Suprised no talk about Strasburg getting torched
This was ugly.....

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Old 10-23-2009, 03:19 PM   #2
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Don't leave the ball hanging in thin air.... it will go far.
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:39 PM   #3
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wow.. Marrero is flat out crushing the ball...
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It doesn't hurt my feelings. Hopefully he turns out to be another Scott Boras overhyped client.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:56 AM   #5
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What goes in the AFL stays in the AFL.

Seriously the performances in the ASF are even less meaningful than what goes on during a simulated game on field M on the first day of spring training.
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Old 10-24-2009, 11:50 AM   #6
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AFL means nothing? That's just wrong.

The AFL shows:
1) who teams consider close to the big leagues.
2) who teams are intrigued with.
2) who teams think can help the next year.

Too, about half the guys in the league become pretty solid big league starters. Two or three per team become really good. Perennial All Star/ HOF caliber players show up at a rate of about one or two a year, depending on the season.
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:32 PM   #7
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AFL means nothing? That's just wrong.

The AFL shows:
1) who teams consider close to the big leagues.
2) who teams are intrigued with.
2) who teams think can help the next year.

Too, about half the guys in the league become pretty solid big league starters. Two or three per team become really good. Perennial All Star/ HOF caliber players show up at a rate of about one or two a year, depending on the season.
The AFL is pretty much about getting swings. The fact that Strasburg, Phillippe Aumont, and Josh Fields are even there is news.

The Stats? Completely and utterly meaningless.
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:39 PM   #8
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The AFL is pretty much about getting swings. The fact that Strasburg, Phillippe Aumont, and Josh Fields are even there is news.

The Stats? Completely and utterly meaningless.
Pretty much, although the stats that are nice this year are the ones PFX is spitting out. Strasburg's stuff looks an awful lot like that of Justin Verlander, but his breaking ball looks like it has a bit better break to it.
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Old 10-24-2009, 01:42 PM   #9
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The fact that Strasburg, Phillippe Aumont, and Josh Fields are even there is news.
Strasberg is news. Other mostly unseen first rounders from this year are news -- Minor, Leake, Scheppers. Aumont and Fields are news the way guys like Andrew Cashner, Mark Rogers and Andrew Miller are -- former first rounders whose stars have dimmed and who need to get back on track. Old news.
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Strasberg is news. Other mostly unseen first rounders from this year are news -- Minor, Leake, Scheppers. Aumont and Fields are news the way guys like Andrew Cashner, Mark Rogers and Andrew Miller are -- former first rounders whose stars have dimmed and who need to get back on track. Old news.
Aumont and Fields are news because they will be in the majors next season-something that hitters in the AFL rarely have to deal with.
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Aumont and Fields are news because they will be in the majors next season-something that hitters in the AFL rarely have to deal with.
And they seem to be dealing with it just fine.
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And they seem to be dealing with it just fine.
Hitters always deal with the venues in Arizona just fine-that's the point of sending them to the AFL. It's essentially meaningless from an evaluation standpoint.
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Hitters always deal with the venues in Arizona just fine-that's the point of sending them to the AFL. It's essentially meaningless from an evaluation standpoint.
I don't know. Go back and check last year's AFL stats for guys like Hanson, Norris, Medlen, Parnell, Matusz, Scherzer, Hughes and other "rare" guys who were on the threshold of the majors. Pretty good.
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I don't know. Go back and check last year's AFL stats for guys like Hanson, Norris, Medlen, Parnell, Matusz, Scherzer, Hughes and other "rare" guys who were on the threshold of the majors. Pretty good.
AFL stats mean notta.
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AFL stats mean notta.
Gonna have to disagree. Good spot for hitters, but if you've got a young arm who goes out there and pitches very well -- like a lot of the guys I mentioned -- it tells you something.

I know I'd sure as heck rather see my team's prospects doing well than doing poorly, especially the pitchers.
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