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OnBaseMachine · 12-07-2009, 12:12 PM

Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso
Prospect #2 - Mike Leake
Prospect #3 - Todd Frazier
Prospect #4 - Juan Francisco
Prospect #5 - Yorman Rodriguez
Prospect #6 - Travis Wood
Prospect #7 - Chris Heisey
Prospect #8 - Zack Cozart
Prospect #9 - Brad Boxberger
Prospect #10 - Neftali Soto
Prospect #11 - Matt Maloney
Prospect #12 - Billy Hamilton
Prospect #13 - Chris Valaika
Prospect #14 - Matt Klinker
Prospect #15 - Juan Duran
Prospect #16 - Devin Mesoraco
Prospect #17 - Danny Dorn

HokieRed · 12-07-2009, 12:33 PM

Joseph, Silva next.

OnBaseMachine · 12-07-2009, 12:36 PM

I went with Juan Silva again.

mace · 12-07-2009, 05:38 PM

Hi-ho Silva!

(You gotta be of a certain vintage . . . )

REDblooded · 12-08-2009, 12:35 AM

This one will be a runaway... Fire up #19 and leave Silva off of it...

mth123 · 12-08-2009, 04:09 AM

Matt Fairel. Lefty starter who had success in A+ and should finsih 2010 ready for AAA. Could be a realistic rotation option by 2011.

Not sure I get the love for Silva. He had a decent debut in the GCL, but even with a 400. BABIP didn't knock the doors down.

camisadelgolf · 12-08-2009, 08:26 AM

There are probably about 15 players I'd pick before Silva--and I was very impressed with Silva. I just think the Reds' pitching prospects are sorely underrated.

Mario-Rijo · 12-08-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by camisadelgolf

There are probably about 15 players I'd pick before Silva--and I was very impressed with Silva. I just think the Reds' pitching prospects are sorely underrated.

Probably because there isn't enough information available on the pitching prospects (scouting reports) and of course their relative volatility.

chicoruiz · 12-08-2009, 10:03 AM

Every year there's one guy I have to vote for about seven times before he struggles across the finish line. This year I'm proud to say it's Donnie Joseph.

Red Daddy · 12-08-2009, 12:02 PM

Went with Fellhauer

REDblooded · 12-08-2009, 01:27 PM

I would love to see somebody (assuming that Silva wins here) post scouting reports on their own personal top 5 remaining pitching prospects... I personally feel guilty for falling in love with the bats and not looking at the arms as much as I probably should...

aubashbrother · 12-08-2009, 04:40 PM

jcs

Red Daddy · 12-08-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camisadelgolf

There are probably about 15 players I'd pick before Silva--and I was very impressed with Silva. I just think the Reds' pitching prospects are sorely underrated.

I'm with you on this one. This out of the blue man-love for Silva baffles me. Here's a few that I would easily take over Silva's 31% strikeout average.

1. Rojas- amazing glove, bat coming on
2. Serrano- great college year, very good pro start, big arm
3. Fellhauer- better than Silva's first year and in Dayton.
4. Sappelt- 295 average in Fla league, best centerfielder in system, 42 SBs.
5. Joseph- big arm albeit a relief pitcher
6. Sulburan- big arm, needs consistantly
7. How about Howard Johnson- GREAT first year
8. Henry Rodriguez batted 336!!! in low rookie ball
9. Jordon Smith- known prospect, just injured last year.
10. Del Rosario- tore up all leagues last year.

I also like Tuttle, Lecure, Cline, Ondrusek, and Fairel better than Silva. That's 15 other prospects right there.

In his last 32 ABs, Silva batted 250 and had 11 strikeouts in low rookie, I just don't see it. I must have missed something.

OnBaseMachine · 12-08-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Daddy

I'm with you on this one. This out of the blue man-love for Silva baffles me.

Silva has five solid tools and as a raw 18-year old he hit .280/.372/.462 - .834 OPS in the pitching friendly GCL. Yeah, he strikes out a lot right now but he also walks at a solid rate. You gotta remember that he was only 18 years old this past season and was in his first professional season. There's plenty to like about Juan Silva, IMO.

Red Daddy · 12-08-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine

Silva has five solid tools and as a raw 18-year old he hit .280/.372/.462 - .834 OPS in the pitching friendly GCL. Yeah, he strikes out a lot right now but he also walks at a solid rate. You gotta remember that he was only 18 years old this past season and was in his first professional season. There's plenty to like about Juan Silva, IMO.

Look, I hope you're right. I'd never heard he had five tools. I wonder why he was drafted so late if he had all these raw tools. I'll be cautiously optimistic now on Silva and will certainly be watching him very closely. However, right now I see many others I like much more than him. We'll just have to agree to disagree for now and see what happens.

View Poll Results: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?
Tyler Cline	0	0%
Matt Fairel	1	1.41%
Josh Fellhauer	7	9.86%
Mariekson Gregorius	1	1.41%
Harold Johnson	0	0%
Donnie Joseph	6	8.45%
Sam Lecure	2	2.82%
Logan Ondrusek	2	2.82%
Henry Rodriguez	0	0%
Miguel Rojas	4	5.63%
Enerio Del Rosario	7	9.86%
Mark Serrano	1	1.41%
Juan Silva	28	39.44%
Jordan Smith	7	9.86%
Juan Carlos Sulbaran	4	5.63%
Mace Thurman	0	0%
Daniel Tuttle	0	0%
Philippe-Alexandre Valiquette	0	0%
Humberto Valor	0	0%
Pedro Viola	1	1.41%
Other - Name him	0	0%
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12-07-2009, 12:12 PM	#1
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,662	Who is Redszone's #18 prospect? Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso Prospect #2 - Mike Leake Prospect #3 - Todd Frazier Prospect #4 - Juan Francisco Prospect #5 - Yorman Rodriguez Prospect #6 - Travis Wood Prospect #7 - Chris Heisey Prospect #8 - Zack Cozart Prospect #9 - Brad Boxberger Prospect #10 - Neftali Soto Prospect #11 - Matt Maloney Prospect #12 - Billy Hamilton Prospect #13 - Chris Valaika Prospect #14 - Matt Klinker Prospect #15 - Juan Duran Prospect #16 - Devin Mesoraco Prospect #17 - Danny Dorn

12-07-2009, 12:33 PM	#2
HokieRed Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,055	Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect? Joseph, Silva next.

12-07-2009, 12:36 PM	#3
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,662	Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect? I went with Juan Silva again.

12-07-2009, 05:38 PM	#4
mace Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,175	Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect? Hi-ho Silva! (You gotta be of a certain vintage . . . )

12-08-2009, 12:35 AM	#5
REDblooded Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,126	Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect? This one will be a runaway... Fire up #19 and leave Silva off of it... __________________ 2010 Mock Draft Selections (picking for Rays) Bryce Brentz Brandon Workman Kris Bryant Matt Lipka Rick Hague

12-08-2009, 04:09 AM	#6
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,708	Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect? Matt Fairel. Lefty starter who had success in A+ and should finsih 2010 ready for AAA. Could be a realistic rotation option by 2011. Not sure I get the love for Silva. He had a decent debut in the GCL, but even with a 400. BABIP didn't knock the doors down. __________________ "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

12-08-2009, 08:26 AM	#7
camisadelgolf Vampire Weekend @Bernie's Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 11,311	Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect? There are probably about 15 players I'd pick before Silva--and I was very impressed with Silva. I just think the Reds' pitching prospects are sorely underrated.

12-08-2009, 10:03 AM	#9
chicoruiz Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,663	Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect? Every year there's one guy I have to vote for about seven times before he struggles across the finish line. This year I'm proud to say it's Donnie Joseph. __________________ "In baseball, you don't know nothin'"...Yogi Berra

12-08-2009, 12:02 PM	#10
Red Daddy Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 190	Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect? Went with Fellhauer

12-08-2009, 01:27 PM	#11
REDblooded Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,126	Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect? I would love to see somebody (assuming that Silva wins here) post scouting reports on their own personal top 5 remaining pitching prospects... I personally feel guilty for falling in love with the bats and not looking at the arms as much as I probably should... __________________ 2010 Mock Draft Selections (picking for Rays) Bryce Brentz Brandon Workman Kris Bryant Matt Lipka Rick Hague

12-08-2009, 04:40 PM	#12
aubashbrother Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brookneal , VA. Posts: 530	Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect? jcs __________________ 2009 Redszone MLB Mock Draft 1st Round - Steven Strasburg 1st Round - Matt Purke 2nd Round - Brett Jackson 3rd Round - Kent Matthes