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flyer85 · 12-09-2009, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Madden

JFay says Jocketty has been in talks with Craig Counsell.

I'm not sure if I like the sound of that.

He is very scrappy and certainly knows how to play the game the right way.

BRM · 12-09-2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Madden

JFay says Jocketty has been in talks with Craig Counsell.

I'm not sure if I like the sound of that.

Improving the fringes. Signing Counsell doesn't do a lot to help or hurt the team. Meh.

Kc61 · 12-09-2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Madden

JFay says Jocketty has been in talks with Craig Counsell.

I'm not sure if I like the sound of that.

I kind of expect the Reds to sign Counsell. He can play all over the infield and has always been a decent OBP guy. No power, but the Reds are starved for OBP men.

It would be ok.

Will M · 12-09-2009, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kc61

I kind of expect the Reds to sign Counsell. He can play all over the infield and has always been a decent OBP guy. No power, but the Reds are starved for OBP men.

It would be ok.

yeh me too.

on the plus side:
he can play 3B/SS/2B.
he hits left handed.
had an OPS+ of 105 last year.

on the minus side:
39 years old.
career OPS+ of 81.

IF the Reds can't get a guy like Itzuris and IF its a cheap 1 year deal I would be ok with it. Not excited enough to run out and buy season tickets, just ok with it.

Ron Madden · 12-09-2009, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kc61

I kind of expect the Reds to sign Counsell. He can play all over the infield and has always been a decent OBP guy. No power, but the Reds are starved for OBP men.

It would be ok.

Marty and Thom will be begging Dusty to play him everyday.

flyer85 · 12-09-2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Madden

Marty and Thom will be begging Dusty to play him everyday.

just spray a little deodorizer and shine him up a bit and he'll be ready to go ... every day.

BRM · 12-09-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Madden

Marty and Thom will be begging Dusty to play him everyday.

At SS, no doubt.

OnBaseMachine · 12-09-2009, 04:38 PM

The Indians named Jon Nunnally their new hitting coach. Wow, now there's a name I haven't heard in a while.

Nunnally posted an .823 OPS (111 OPS+) in 1,048 career plate appearances. I didn't realize he hit that well in the majors.

Ron Madden · 12-09-2009, 04:47 PM

Meetings Day III, Part II Posted by jfay December 9th, 2009, 2:50 pm We just completed our session with Walt Jocketty. We did it early because he has to be at the scout of the year banquet. The Reds’ own Gene Bennett is being honored as the Midwest Scout of the Year. Congrats to Geno. He’s been with the Reds since the Bob Howsam days. Great guy, great scout.

Jocketty did not give us a lot because not a lot is happening. Here’s the highlights:

–The Reds have talked to the agent for Craig Counsell. He fits the utility-player-who-can-play-short role. Counsell, by the way, is good friends with Thom Brennaman. Things like that can be a factor.

–Nothing new on the Jonny Gomes front.

–The Reds will almost assuredly be at 40 as far as the 40-man roster going into the Rule 5. That means they won’t take anyone.

–The Reds have not talked with the Angels. Maicer Izturis, a perfect fit for the Reds’ needs, is rumored to be available. (See previous post).

–Jocketty downplayed the Reds’ interest in Jamey Carroll. “The problem is he hasn’t played short much lately,” Jocketty said. “We like him as a player, but I don’t know if he’s fit.”

There you have it. But boring stuff, eh? Jocketty knows.

“There really isn’t a lot going on with the old Redlegs,” he said. “It’s pretty much the same. We’ve talked to more agents than clubs. We’re still in the same mode: We’re looking for a hitter and an infielder, preferably a left-handed hitter who can play short.”

I’d bet dollars to donuts the Reds leave here without doing a thing.

“I’d tell you stay to stay by your phones,” Jocketty told the scribes as we departed, “but there’s really no reason to.”

Tom Servo · 12-09-2009, 04:52 PM

HeatherC1212 · 12-09-2009, 04:53 PM

It's been relatively quiet for just about all the teams this year. I can't remember the last time things were this quiet during the winter meetings. It's kind of eerie.

BRM · 12-09-2009, 04:58 PM

Wake me up when it's March.

My guess is Counsell will end up getting the bulk of the starts at SS if he's signed.

Ron Madden · 12-09-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRM

My guess is Counsell will end up getting the bulk of the starts at SS if he's signed.

I'm afraid you might be right.

Falls City Beer · 12-09-2009, 05:08 PM

Remember when the farm was going to produce a contender? Yeah, me neither.

redsmetz · 12-09-2009, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Remember when the farm was going to produce a contender? Yeah, me neither.

So we haven't brought anything up through our farm and we have nothing that will help us? Yikes, we are a bleak group, aren't we?

12-09-2009, 04:38 PM	#83
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,660	Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread The Indians named Jon Nunnally their new hitting coach. Wow, now there's a name I haven't heard in a while. Nunnally posted an .823 OPS (111 OPS+) in 1,048 career plate appearances. I didn't realize he hit that well in the majors. Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 12-09-2009 at 04:42 PM.

12-09-2009, 04:47 PM	#84
Ron Madden Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,815	Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread Meetings Day III, Part II Posted by jfay December 9th, 2009, 2:50 pm We just completed our session with Walt Jocketty. We did it early because he has to be at the scout of the year banquet. The Reds’ own Gene Bennett is being honored as the Midwest Scout of the Year. Congrats to Geno. He’s been with the Reds since the Bob Howsam days. Great guy, great scout. Jocketty did not give us a lot because not a lot is happening. Here’s the highlights: –The Reds have talked to the agent for Craig Counsell. He fits the utility-player-who-can-play-short role. Counsell, by the way, is good friends with Thom Brennaman. Things like that can be a factor. –Nothing new on the Jonny Gomes front. –The Reds will almost assuredly be at 40 as far as the 40-man roster going into the Rule 5. That means they won’t take anyone. –The Reds have not talked with the Angels. Maicer Izturis, a perfect fit for the Reds’ needs, is rumored to be available. (See previous post). –Jocketty downplayed the Reds’ interest in Jamey Carroll. “The problem is he hasn’t played short much lately,” Jocketty said. “We like him as a player, but I don’t know if he’s fit.” There you have it. But boring stuff, eh? Jocketty knows. “There really isn’t a lot going on with the old Redlegs,” he said. “It’s pretty much the same. We’ve talked to more agents than clubs. We’re still in the same mode: We’re looking for a hitter and an infielder, preferably a left-handed hitter who can play short.” I’d bet dollars to donuts the Reds leave here without doing a thing. “I’d tell you stay to stay by your phones,” Jocketty told the scribes as we departed, “but there’s really no reason to.”

12-09-2009, 04:52 PM	#85
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,418	Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

12-09-2009, 04:53 PM	#86
HeatherC1212 Joey Votto Fangirl Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2,518	Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread It's been relatively quiet for just about all the teams this year. I can't remember the last time things were this quiet during the winter meetings. It's kind of eerie. __________________ "I tried to play golf, but I found out I wasn't very good." -Joey Votto on his offseason hobby search An MLB.com reporter asked what one thing Votto couldn’t do. “I can’t skate or play hockey,” Votto said. “Well, I can skate ... but I can’t stop.”

12-09-2009, 04:58 PM	#87
BRM Let's ride Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado's eastern plains Posts: 11,232	Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread Wake me up when it's March. My guess is Counsell will end up getting the bulk of the starts at SS if he's signed.

12-09-2009, 05:08 PM	#89
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: 2009 Winter Meetings thread Remember when the farm was going to produce a contender? Yeah, me neither.

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