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03-24-2010, 04:45 AM
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25 Man Predictions
Not much more to say, who makes the OD 25 man roster? In addition who do you think should that won't make it?
Prediction Harang Cueto Arroyo Bailey Maloney Cordero Masset Rhodes Burton Herrera Lincoln Owings C - Hernandez 1B - Votto 2B - Phillips SS - Cabrera 3B - Rolen LF - Gomes CF - Stubbs RF - Bruce C - Hanigan OF - Dickerson OF - Nix IF - Sutton SS - Janish Not much of a surprise really. I think Carlos Fisher would have made it interesting in the pen had he stayed healthy, Lincoln may have been cut or Micah might have started to make room. I think Miles gets cut or dealt Burke to AAA and Balentein to AAA or dealt.
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03-24-2010, 05:35 AM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
I'd personally prefer Balentien over Nix, but I can see the argument for keeping Nix. Especially since Dickerson is a lefty. Balentien's spring has looked pretty good. Nix is definitely a better defender, but I like Bal's upside better, being he's 4 years younger than Nix is.
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03-24-2010, 08:20 AM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
Rotation
1 S1 Harang 2 S2 Cuteo 3 S3 Arroyo 4 S4 Bailey 5 S5 Maloney Pen 6 CL Cordero 7 RSU Masset 8 LSU Rhodes 9 LOOGY Herrera 10 MR Burton 11 MR Lincoln 12 LR Owings Starting Catchers 13 C Hernandez 14 C Hanigan Starting Infield 15 1B Votto 16 2B Phillips 17 SS Cabrera 18 3B Rolen Starting Outfield 19 LF Gomes 20 CF Stubbs 21 RF Bruce 22 OF Dickerson Bench 23 3B/LF Francisco 24 IF Cairo 25 IF Janish 320 |
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03-24-2010, 09:17 AM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
My guesses:
Harang Cueto Arroyo Bailey Wood Cordero Masset Rhodes Burton Herrera Maloney Owings C - Hernandez 1B - Votto 2B - Phillips SS - Cabrera 3B - Rolen LF - Gomes/Dickerson CF - Stubbs RF - Bruce C - Hanigan OF - Balentin IF - Miles SS - Janish I think they keep Miles because he's a Jocketty guy and making 2.7 million. I think they do bite the financial bullet and drop Lincoln. I think Balentin's upside gets one more chance, and, simply a hunch, I think Wood wins the 5th starter battle with Maloney into long relief. Probably wrong on all counts, but, hey, a guess is a guess. |
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03-24-2010, 09:57 AM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
Harang
Cueto Arroyo Bailey Leake Cordero Masset Rhodes Burton Herrera Maloney Owings C Hernandez 1b Votto 2b Phillips SS Cabrera 3b Rolen LF Gomes CF Stubbs RF Bruce B Dickerson B Hanigan B Janish B Balentine B Sutton When I heard Larkin on MLB Network talk glowingly of Leake I thought he may have more of a shot than I thought. I think Sutton and his upside get the nod over Miles. Balentine gets the nod because he has more upside than Nix. |
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03-24-2010, 11:54 AM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
Rotation
1 S1 Harang 2 S2 Cuteo 3 S3 Arroyo 4 S4 Bailey 5 S5 Maloney Pen 6 CL Cordero 7 RSU Masset 8 LSU Rhodes 9 LOOGY Herrera 10 MR Burton 11 MR Lincoln 12 LR Owings Starting Catcher 13 C Hernandez Starting Infield 15 1B Votto 16 2B Phillips 17 SS Cabrera 18 3B Rolen Outfield 19 LF Gomes 20 CF Stubbs 21 RF Bruce Bench 14 C Hanigan 22 OF Dickerson 23 Util Sutton 24 OF Balentin 25 IF Janish I don't see how they justify (save for that $2.5M sunk cost) keeping Miles>Sutton. Hoping I'm right here. It's close between Nix/Balentin. Francisco's defense is atrocious at every position and needs to shore that up before being on the 25-man pre-Sept. No need to rush him since he's not going to see regular AB's up here. Let him work on things (plate disciple being one, defense the other) down in AAA.
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03-24-2010, 12:12 PM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
Here's what my 25 man roster would look like:
SP: Aaron Harang Johnny Cueto Bronson Arroyo Homer Bailey Matt Maloney Bullpen: Micah Owings Daniel Ray Herrera Arthur Rhodes Jared Burton Logan Ondrusek Nick Masset Francisco Cordero Starters: C Ramon Hernandez 1B Joey Votto 2B Brandon Phillips SS Orlando Cabrera 3B Scott Rolen LF Chris Dickerson (or Gomes/Balentien) CF Drew Stubbs RF Jay Bruce Bench: C Ryan Hanigan OF Jonny Gomes OF Wladimir Balentien IF Drew Sutton IF Paul Janish Carlos Fisher would've been in my bullpen but he'll probably begin the season in Louisville now due to his lack of work this spring caused by a sore arm. That's my list, not what I think the Reds will do. The Reds will probably take Aaron Miles over Sutton and Mike Lincoln over Ondrusek, and possibly Justin Lehr over Maloney. Chapman would have been my fifth starter but the muscle spasms will probably set him back a few days and take him out of the running for now. Mike Leake and Travis Wood both still have a chance to win the final rotation spot if they finish strong. Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 03-24-2010 at 12:15 PM. |
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03-24-2010, 12:30 PM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
In a perfect world, I agree w/ you, OBM, re: Ondrusek, but Lincoln will break camp w/ the team and be given every chance. And I genuinely do not think Wood or Leake has a snowballs chance of being #5 to start the season.
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03-24-2010, 12:38 PM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
Harang
Cueto Arroyo Bailey Leake Cordero Masset Rhodes Burton Herrera Maloney Owings C - Hernandez 1B - Votto 2B - Phillips SS - Cabrera 3B - Rolen LF - Gomes CF - Stubbs RF - Bruce C - Hanigan OF - Dickerson OF - Nix IF - Miles SS - Janish
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03-24-2010, 01:08 PM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
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Hernandez Hanigan INF Votto Phillips Cabrera Rolen Sutton Janish OF Stubbs Dickerson Gomes Bruce Wlad SP Harang Arroyo Cueto Bailey Wood RP Coco Masset Burton DRH Rhodes Owings Lincoln
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03-24-2010, 01:19 PM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
Not what I prefer, but I think will happen
SP1 Harang SP2 Cueto SP3 Arroyo SP4 Bailey SP5 Lehr CL Cordero SU Masset SU Rhodes MR Burton MR Herrera LR Lincoln LR Owings C Hernandez 1B Votto 2B Phillips SS Cabrera 3B Rolen LF Gomes CF Stubbs RF Bruce C Hanigan OF Dickerson OF Nix IF Miles SS Janish
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03-24-2010, 01:30 PM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
Each of you have already laid out the list nicely, which I mostly agree with.
So I will spin it a bit differently The season is a long season. I know I have listed more than 25 here, but, I think many of these stand a good chance of seeing a good amount of playing time with the major league Cincinnati Reds in 2010. I probably omitted someone or more by accident but, I wanted to also look at how the youth movement is progressing too with this young Reds team under Mr. Jocketty. Code:
Player Age 1 Arthur Rhodes 40 2 Orlando Cabrera 35 3 Miguel Cairo 35 4 Francisco Cordero 34 5 Mike Lincoln 34 6 Scott Rolen 34 7 Corky Miller 34 8 Aaron Miles 33 9 Ramon Hernandez 33 10 Bronson Arroyo 33 11 Justin Lehr 32 12 Kip Wells 32 13 Aaron Harang 31 14 Chris Burke 30 15 Jonny Gomes 29 16 Laynce Nix 29 17 Ryan Hanigan 29 18 Brandon Phillips 28 19 Jared Burton 28 20 Chris Dickerson 27 21 Paul Janish 27 22 Nick Masset 27 23 Micah Owings 27 24 Carlos Fisher 27 25 Drew Sutton 26 26 Joey Votto 26 27 Wladimir Balentien 25 28 Danny Herrera 25 29 Drew Stubbs 25 30 Johnny Cueto 24 31 Homer Bailey 23 32 Jay Bruce 22 Last edited by Spring~Fields; 03-24-2010 at 01:32 PM. |
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03-24-2010, 01:49 PM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
It is a good sign that there are so few questions in the 25 with another week and a half of spring training. In the areas in which there are questions, I think the Reds will give the nod to the more experienced major leaguers to start the season. Thus, I think they will take Miles over Sutton and Lincoln over Ondrusek. There are no infield spots at Louisville for Sutton, but he can take turns DH'ing. I have no idea what they will do with Burke and Cairo. It seems to me that they can only keep one in AAA.
The fifth outfield spot may be the exception to the experience rule as I believe the Reds will keep Balentien over Nix. I suspect that the Reds see Balentien as the RH power bat of the future. I don't believe his spring discouraged that view. He does need to get some playing time, however, instead of remaining in pinch hit, fifth OF limbo. |
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03-24-2010, 08:58 PM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
Harang
Cueto Arroyo Bailey Lehr Owings Maloney Burton Herrera Masset Rhodes Cordero Hernandez Hanigan Votto Phillips Cabrera Rolen Janish Sutton Bruce Stubbs Gomes Dickerson Balentien
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03-25-2010, 12:02 AM
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Re: 25 Man Predictions
SP1 Harang
SP2 Cueto SP3 Arroyo SP4 Bailey SP5 Leake CL Cordero SU Masset SU Rhodes MR Maloney MR Herrera LR Lincoln LR Owings C Hernandez 1B Votto 2B Phillips SS Cabrera 3B Rolen LF Balentien CF Stubbs RF Bruce C Hanigan OF Dickerson OF Gomes IF Sutton SS Janish Burton is too much like Masset, only not as good. Still sticking with Wlad beating Gomes out of LF job, and Leake winning the 5th starter job.
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