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RedLegSuperStar · 02-15-2010, 01:41 PM

News coming from the Milwalkee radiostation.

Per MLBTradeRumors.com

Tom Servo · 02-15-2010, 02:09 PM

Danny Haren (and extras) for Mark Mulder is quite the bad mark on our GM's past resume.

Eric_the_Red · 02-15-2010, 02:33 PM

Remember when Mulder, Hudson and Zito were supposed to bring the title to Oakland? That is a group of great pitchers when they were on their games.

bucksfan2 · 02-15-2010, 02:38 PM

In 05 Mulder went 16-8, started 32 games, and threw over 200 innings. Its pretty fair to say that without Mulder the Cards may not have won the Central that season.

Granted Haren was a high price to pay, I would pay a much higher price as a Reds fan for a WS championship.

LoganBuck · 02-15-2010, 02:42 PM

Not so fast:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=57248

Reds1 · 02-15-2010, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoganBuck

Not so fast:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=57248

Comments removed. I guess we'll never know!

WVRed · 02-15-2010, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric_the_Red

Remember when Mulder, Hudson and Zito were supposed to bring the title to Oakland? That is a group of great pitchers when they were on their games.

Yep, add Rich Harden and they were the big four.

Those three outside of Harden might be the closest to ever matching Glavine, Maddux, and Smoltz in terms of overall talent.

kaldaniels · 02-15-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WVRed

Yep, add Rich Harden and they were the big four.

Those three outside of Harden might be the closest to ever matching Glavine, Maddux, and Smoltz in terms of overall talent.

Maybe I'm an extreme optimist but I've got my fingers crossed that 3 of the 4 of Cueto,Chapman,Volquez,and Bailey might at the least give that Oakland group a run for their money.

RedsManRick · 02-15-2010, 09:39 PM

You've heard of TINSTAAPP (There Is No Such Thing As A Pitching Prospect)?

I posit: TINSTAAPWDALTD (There is No Such Thing As A Pitcher Who Deserves A Long Term Deal)

Eric_the_Red · 02-15-2010, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVRed

Yep, add Rich Harden and they were the big four.

Those three outside of Harden might be the closest to ever matching Glavine, Maddux, and Smoltz in terms of overall talent.

Let's not forget the Florida trio: Burnett, Dempster and Penny. Maybe not as successful but certainly had a lot of hype.

Big Klu · 02-15-2010, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric_the_Red

Let's not forget the Florida trio: Burnett, Dempster and Penny. Maybe not as successful but certainly had a lot of hype.

I counter with the Mets' triumvirate of Paul Wilson, Jason Isringhausen, and Bill Pulsipher. In terms of hype, they had it in spades.

Chip R · 02-16-2010, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Klu

I counter with the Mets' triumvirate of Paul Wilson, Jason Isringhausen, and Bill Pulsipher. In terms of hype, they had it in spades.

That kind of came with the territory.

LoganBuck · 02-16-2010, 12:26 AM

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=57274

WVRed · 02-16-2010, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Klu

I counter with the Mets' triumvirate of Paul Wilson, Jason Isringhausen, and Bill Pulsipher. In terms of hype, they had it in spades.

Better known as Generation K, lol.

edabbs44 · 02-16-2010, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric_the_Red

Remember when Mulder, Hudson and Zito were supposed to bring the title to Oakland? That is a group of great pitchers when they were on their games.

I wonder how much their success in Oakland (and lackthereof away from there) had to do with the Athletics' training facilities.

Kind of like how there may have been more to the the Bagwell / Larry Andersen trade debacle than first realized.

02-15-2010, 01:41 PM	#1
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02-15-2010, 02:09 PM	#2
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,393	Re: Mark Mulder Retires Danny Haren (and extras) for Mark Mulder is quite the bad mark on our GM's past resume. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

02-15-2010, 02:33 PM	#3
Eric_the_Red Mr.Redlegs is my homeboy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 2,171	Re: Mark Mulder Retires Remember when Mulder, Hudson and Zito were supposed to bring the title to Oakland? That is a group of great pitchers when they were on their games.

02-15-2010, 02:38 PM	#4
bucksfan2 Waitin til next year Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 9,610	Re: Mark Mulder Retires In 05 Mulder went 16-8, started 32 games, and threw over 200 innings. Its pretty fair to say that without Mulder the Cards may not have won the Central that season. Granted Haren was a high price to pay, I would pay a much higher price as a Reds fan for a WS championship.

02-15-2010, 02:42 PM	#5
LoganBuck I hate the Cubs Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,580	Re: Mark Mulder Retires Not so fast: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=57248 __________________ Whenever you get mad over a called strike or ball on a close pitch, it's the equivalent of being mad at the QB pump-faking one time before throwing a pass in your average NFL game. ---Caveat Emperor

02-15-2010, 09:39 PM	#9
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,913	Re: Mark Mulder Retires You've heard of TINSTAAPP (There Is No Such Thing As A Pitching Prospect)? I posit: TINSTAAPWDALTD (There is No Such Thing As A Pitcher Who Deserves A Long Term Deal) __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

02-16-2010, 12:26 AM	#13
LoganBuck I hate the Cubs Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,580	Re: Mark Mulder Retires http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=57274 __________________ Whenever you get mad over a called strike or ball on a close pitch, it's the equivalent of being mad at the QB pump-faking one time before throwing a pass in your average NFL game. ---Caveat Emperor

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