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Nasty_Boy · 03-02-2010, 10:08 AM

I was in the Arroyo boat before I opened this thread. He gets on a roll from time to time with that breaking ball and he dominates a lineup... Not to mention that he would be allowed to throw more pitches if he made it deep into a game with the chance at a no-no.

cumberlandreds · 03-02-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nasty_Boy

I was in the Arroyo boat before I opened this thread. He gets on a roll from time to time with that breaking ball and he dominates a lineup... Not to mention that he would be allowed to throw more pitches if he made it deep into a game with the chance at a no-no.

I watched him come close to no hitting the Nats a few years back at RFK. He only gave up a soft single to Ryan Zimmerman early in the game. His breaking ball was unhittable that day and he really mixed his speeds very well. I voted for Cueto on this list but thought about a write in for Arroyo too.

OnBaseMachine · 03-02-2010, 10:29 AM

Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, and Volquez all have no-hit stuff. But a lot of great pitchers with great stuff have never thrown a no-hitter, like Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, and Greg Maddux, among others. I'd give the those four the best chance of throwing a no-hitter. Cueto and Volquez have both flirted with no-hitters so far.

If you recall last April, Volquez threw 8 IP of 1 hit ball against the Astros. The only hit was a Miguel Tejada double off the bottom of the RF wall in the first inning and it could have been caught but Bruce sort of mistimed his jump. I also recell Cueto carrying a no-hitter into the 6th inning at least three different times in his rookie season. All four have the stuff to do it but ya just never know. It takes some luck to go along with skill.

chicoruiz · 03-02-2010, 10:37 AM

I was at the Holtzman no-hitter in '71. Wish I'd been at the Wise one instead. As I recall, he also hit two homers. Can't be too many better single-game performances in baseball history- pitch a no-hitter and go yard twice.

Mario-Rijo · 03-02-2010, 02:08 PM

I think Chapman just strikes me as the type who could when on his game be unhittable.

TheNext44 · 03-02-2010, 02:52 PM

I always bet the longshot, so I am going with Justin Lehr, five inning game, called on account of rain.

Reds1 · 03-02-2010, 03:29 PM

No Harang or BA

I said Bailey

Jpup · 03-02-2010, 03:56 PM

Cueto is my favorite in the entire system.

Ron Madden · 03-03-2010, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jpup

Cueto is my favorite in the entire system.

Cueto is a favorite of mine as well. I thought might as well play along and vote for him.

View Poll Results: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no in 2010?
Bailey	21	40.38%
Cueto	19	36.54%
Chapman	9	17.31%
Wood/Volquez	3	5.77%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

03-02-2010, 10:08 AM	#16
Nasty_Boy Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: 1st Place... Finally Posts: 1,126	Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no? I was in the Arroyo boat before I opened this thread. He gets on a roll from time to time with that breaking ball and he dominates a lineup... Not to mention that he would be allowed to throw more pitches if he made it deep into a game with the chance at a no-no. __________________ I know a lot of people are talking about his on-base percentage (.308 in 2008), but I like to think more in terms of him his in-scoring position percentage. - Our Beloved Manager

03-02-2010, 10:29 AM	#18
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,659	Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no? Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, and Volquez all have no-hit stuff. But a lot of great pitchers with great stuff have never thrown a no-hitter, like Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, and Greg Maddux, among others. I'd give the those four the best chance of throwing a no-hitter. Cueto and Volquez have both flirted with no-hitters so far. If you recall last April, Volquez threw 8 IP of 1 hit ball against the Astros. The only hit was a Miguel Tejada double off the bottom of the RF wall in the first inning and it could have been caught but Bruce sort of mistimed his jump. I also recell Cueto carrying a no-hitter into the 6th inning at least three different times in his rookie season. All four have the stuff to do it but ya just never know. It takes some luck to go along with skill. Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 03-02-2010 at 10:33 AM.

03-02-2010, 10:37 AM	#19
chicoruiz Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,663	Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no? I was at the Holtzman no-hitter in '71. Wish I'd been at the Wise one instead. As I recall, he also hit two homers. Can't be too many better single-game performances in baseball history- pitch a no-hitter and go yard twice. __________________ "In baseball, you don't know nothin'"...Yogi Berra

03-02-2010, 02:08 PM	#20
Mario-Rijo HOF CLASS OF '12 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 8,994	Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no? I think Chapman just strikes me as the type who could when on his game be unhittable. __________________ 2008 Reds Draft Prospect RZ Scouting Reports 2009 Reds Draft Prospect RZ Scouting Reports 2010 Reds Draft Prospect RZ Scouting Reports "You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." --Woody Hayes

03-02-2010, 02:52 PM	#21
TheNext44 Socratic Gadfly Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4,224	Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no? I always bet the longshot, so I am going with Justin Lehr, five inning game, called on account of rain. __________________ "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

03-02-2010, 03:29 PM	#22
Reds1 Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Newburgh, IN Posts: 3,442	Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no? No Harang or BA I said Bailey __________________ And This One Belongs to the REDS!!!

03-02-2010, 03:56 PM	#23
Jpup Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern KY Posts: 6,967	Re: Which Reds pitcher has the best stuff to throw a no-no? Cueto is my favorite in the entire system. __________________ "My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton

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