What would it take to get Hanley Ramirez???

[bellhead]

His stock is down right now. The managers wants his head. What could we offer and get him...

I think he completes the infield and the lineup. Adds a potential GG and a + bat to the lineup.

I say Wood, Orlando, Alonso...

Would you pull the trigger if it was you???

[BLEEDS]

In a New York Minute...

PEACE

-BLEEDS

[1990REDS]

wasnt thier an issue with him and uggla last year? Hes a phenominal player but he seems like a headache. isnt his attitude and work ethic a question every year?

[RedLakerFan24]

Wood, Alonso, Francisco, Frazier, Cabrera

[Orodle]

its gunna take young stars that can play now along with prospects......they would be asking for guys like Bruce, Cueto, Bailey, ect

[sivman17]

Originally Posted by 1990REDS

wasnt thier an issue with him and uggla last year? Hes a phenominal player but he seems like a headache. isnt his attitude and work ethic a question every year?

He's similar to B Phil in that his hustle and effort are questioned on a regular basis. But boy can he hit the ball.

[PhillipsHead]

In a word: everything

[mroby85]

I'd be all over attempting to get him if it was possible by trading prospects like Alonso, or even Chapman. He's locked in at a very affordable long term deal considering his ability and what he brings, and I think he could add a real jolt along with votto in this offense.

[Brisco]

I dunno... I think I like the fact that the biggest names on our team right now are Votto and probably Rolen... two guys that appear to be excellent role models. If a "bigger" talent comes in with a different attitude, no matter how much talent he has, I get nervous.

I know Baseball is largely about individual achievement, but I believe that have "team first" guys being the leaders has gotta help bring out more from the team as a whole.

When a talented head case comes in, I think the chance of success increases if cannot become the face of the clubhouse. I think the Arod Yankees situation is a useful example. Jeter is the man in that clubhouse (I was just there and the folks told me Jeter more fan mail than the rest o fhte team combined and its not even close). They can bring in an Arod, because even when Jeter slumps, it is still his team.

I imagine if Votto and/or Rolen are slumping and Hanley is cruising, suddenly it will be his opinion that seems to be leading the team on issues and I think that wil cost us. I was a great fan of Griffey and always will be, but his inability to bring out greatness in his teammates held him back.

I know I am not in the clubhouse and this is supposition, but it sure looks like Rolen is bringing out a higher team perfomance that exceeds the benefit of just his playing ability... the famous "intangibles."

I dont wanna risk losing that... not even for Hanley Ramierez. I think it would be like adding Griffey to the 1999 team... again, I love Griffey... but that did not create much in the way of team success.

[GIDP]

Bruce

[nemesis]

Cabrera, Alonso, Wood, Yorman, Cozart, Heisey and one or two more pick'em prospects.

[BLEEDS]

Originally Posted by GIDP

Bruce

You're nuts. No way do I give up Bruce for Ramirez.

Alonso, Heisey, Frazier, Francisco, Dorn, 3-4 pitchers not on the ML roster not named Chapman. You deal from your surplus, which is young pitching and 1B/3B/LF prospects.

But not Bruce, Votto, or even Stubbs. We keep our young core, and add to it the shortstop for the next 5 years, and we start talking about collecting pennants.

PEACE

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[Kingspoint]

I don't want him for any price.

[nemesis]

Originally Posted by Kingspoint

I don't want him for any price.

Why?

[Lockdwn11]

Originally Posted by GIDP

Bruce

It would start there. That is why it isn't going to happen.