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CincyRed44 · 05-22-2010, 10:20 PM

Is Joakim Soria available? The Reds are in desperate need of his services to close down games, since our supposed "shutdown closer" can no longer get it done. Our faith no longer lies on Coco's right arm.

Kingspoint · 05-22-2010, 10:23 PM

Heck of an effort there by Cordero.

Throwing 98 MPH on his 35th pitch to get a called third strike.

GIDP · 05-22-2010, 10:54 PM

Id love to get the Mexicutioner but Royals probably arent willing to give him up for what hes probably really worth.

PlugALeake · 05-23-2010, 12:22 AM

If we could get Soria and make a playoff run.. Not only would he finally get the credit he deserves (not getting it in KC), but it would solidify our bullpen.

mroby85 · 05-23-2010, 04:07 AM

I don't think this team is going to be trading for a closer. Cordero is their guy, he's struggled and made things an adventure recently, but thats nothing new to what he's always done. The guy was 39/43 last year, and the season is young, I say you give him a chance to right the ship before making a trade, especially considering we have Arthur Rhodes who has been tremendous and would deserve his shot at it if anyone other than coco gets a shot in my opinion. Also, I think if this team makes a trade it'd be more helpful to trade for a CF that can produce offensively. Stubbs would be fine as a defensive replacement, and a pinch runner off the bench, but he's not getting the job done hitting right around .200, I think that's more of a priority in a trade than a reliever, because this bullpen is experienced, and somewhat proven, I think they'll come around before too long.

Vottomatic · 05-23-2010, 10:37 AM

I brought Soria's name up in another thread.

Royals need to rebuild. I'm sure for the right return they'd be willing to part with him.

GIDP · 05-23-2010, 10:46 AM

JJ Putz is someone that might be a good fit for the pen. Not as a closer obviously.

The Voice of IH · 05-23-2010, 10:57 AM

would Stubbs and DRH be enough to make the deal? maybe another young prospect who is in A or AA? because I would think things even out after that. I would do the deal immediately.

With that said, you got to realize what the Reds have down the road this season. Volqueze is coming back, so either someone in the starting rotation needs to go to the pin (Leake maybe) or he will go to the pin. Chapman will be playing Big League ball if we need him (he will go to the pin) Masset has the talent to become better, Owings is doing great when he gets a chance

, Rhodes is my Favorite pitcher for obvious reasons. and CoCo can not be this terrible(lets hope

) so lets check out our bull pin come August /September

Masset
Owings
Chapman
Rhodes
Volqueze (or other starter)
CoCo
----------------------------------------------------------
and if we don't make the trade that I mentioned
DRH
Lincoln-Fisher (who ever is not sent down for Chapman)
and lets assume that Cairo is let go when Volqueze is back.

Soria makes this Pin one of the Best in Baseball if all partys mentioned above pitch to the talent that God intended them to pitch. I would be in complete favor of adding him, but I also do not see him being the end all be all if we don't add another arm in the bull pin.

GIDP · 05-23-2010, 10:58 AM

Trading all that for a reliever is a terrible management of assets. Thats a type of package that gets you a Grady Sizemore.

The Voice of IH · 05-23-2010, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GIDP

Trading all that for a reliever is a terrible management of assets. Thats a type of package that gets you a Grady Sizemore.

your right, I did not mean to add Frazier in there, he was one of the people I was Thinking about giving up, but instead I went with Stubbs... he should not have been in the original post.

GIDP · 05-23-2010, 11:07 AM

Honestly I just dont trade for a reliever. Its a bad fix for someone who will give you so little innings anyways. Gotta find those guys from within if you want to win imo.

Vottomatic · 05-23-2010, 11:26 AM

You should be able to get Soria for prospects. And not Alonso.

The Voice of IH · 05-23-2010, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GIDP

Honestly I just dont trade for a reliever. Its a bad fix for someone who will give you so little innings anyways. Gotta find those guys from within if you want to win imo.

eh, I disagree with that. trading should make a team better. If you need a relief pitcher then you should go get one.

kfm · 05-23-2010, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GIDP

JJ Putz is someone that might be a good fit for the pen. Not as a closer obviously.

I was thinking the same thing. I don't know what his contract status is, does anyone know.

05-22-2010, 10:20 PM	#1
CincyRed44 Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 71	Hello KC Is Joakim Soria available? The Reds are in desperate need of his services to close down games, since our supposed "shutdown closer" can no longer get it done. Our faith no longer lies on Coco's right arm.

05-22-2010, 10:23 PM	#2
Kingspoint Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: All over Posts: 6,954	Re: Hello KC Heck of an effort there by Cordero. Throwing 98 MPH on his 35th pitch to get a called third strike.

05-22-2010, 10:54 PM	#3
GIDP Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,419	Re: Hello KC Id love to get the Mexicutioner but Royals probably arent willing to give him up for what hes probably really worth.

05-23-2010, 12:22 AM	#4
PlugALeake Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: OH-IO Posts: 24	Re: Hello KC If we could get Soria and make a playoff run.. Not only would he finally get the credit he deserves (not getting it in KC), but it would solidify our bullpen. __________________ Proud To Be An American But Even Prouder To Be A Reds Fan!

05-23-2010, 04:07 AM	#5
mroby85 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,281	Re: Hello KC I don't think this team is going to be trading for a closer. Cordero is their guy, he's struggled and made things an adventure recently, but thats nothing new to what he's always done. The guy was 39/43 last year, and the season is young, I say you give him a chance to right the ship before making a trade, especially considering we have Arthur Rhodes who has been tremendous and would deserve his shot at it if anyone other than coco gets a shot in my opinion. Also, I think if this team makes a trade it'd be more helpful to trade for a CF that can produce offensively. Stubbs would be fine as a defensive replacement, and a pinch runner off the bench, but he's not getting the job done hitting right around .200, I think that's more of a priority in a trade than a reliever, because this bullpen is experienced, and somewhat proven, I think they'll come around before too long.

05-23-2010, 10:37 AM	#6
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,978	Re: Hello KC I brought Soria's name up in another thread. Royals need to rebuild. I'm sure for the right return they'd be willing to part with him. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

05-23-2010, 10:46 AM	#7
GIDP Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,419	Re: Hello KC JJ Putz is someone that might be a good fit for the pen. Not as a closer obviously.

05-23-2010, 10:57 AM	#8
The Voice of IH Lets Go 'Bird' Hunting Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The University of Akron Posts: 1,108	Re: Hello KC would Stubbs and DRH be enough to make the deal? maybe another young prospect who is in A or AA? because I would think things even out after that. I would do the deal immediately. With that said, you got to realize what the Reds have down the road this season. Volqueze is coming back, so either someone in the starting rotation needs to go to the pin (Leake maybe) or he will go to the pin. Chapman will be playing Big League ball if we need him (he will go to the pin) Masset has the talent to become better, Owings is doing great when he gets a chance , Rhodes is my Favorite pitcher for obvious reasons. and CoCo can not be this terrible(lets hope ) so lets check out our bull pin come August /September Masset Owings Chapman Rhodes Volqueze (or other starter) CoCo ---------------------------------------------------------- and if we don't make the trade that I mentioned DRH Lincoln-Fisher (who ever is not sent down for Chapman) and lets assume that Cairo is let go when Volqueze is back. Soria makes this Pin one of the Best in Baseball if all partys mentioned above pitch to the talent that God intended them to pitch. I would be in complete favor of adding him, but I also do not see him being the end all be all if we don't add another arm in the bull pin. __________________ Hey Sparky! Indian Hill English teachers taught me everything I know! Numbers behind the Debate: Small Ball vs. Long Ball Last edited by The Voice of IH; 05-23-2010 at 10:59 AM.

05-23-2010, 10:58 AM	#9
GIDP Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,419	Re: Hello KC Trading all that for a reliever is a terrible management of assets. Thats a type of package that gets you a Grady Sizemore.

05-23-2010, 11:07 AM	#11
GIDP Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,419	Re: Hello KC Honestly I just dont trade for a reliever. Its a bad fix for someone who will give you so little innings anyways. Gotta find those guys from within if you want to win imo.

05-23-2010, 11:26 AM	#12
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,978	Re: Hello KC You should be able to get Soria for prospects. And not Alonso. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

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