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REDREAD · 06-01-2010, 10:19 PM

First nice article on Rolen, yes it's fluff, but still a good read

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/02/sp...l/02rolen.html

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“You know W.W.J.D., what would Jesus do? Here, it’s what would Scott do?” Reds outfielder Jonny Gomes said.

I don't expect Rolen to finish the season leading the league in HR, but he's been a great middle order of the batter.

In contrast, Zach Stewart is off to a rocky start. At AA: 6.02 ERA, 43IP, 48 hits allowed, 19 BB allowed. Sure, he will probably get better, but he's not looking like a sure thing right now.

Thought I'd add a poll to see what the board thinks of the trade now.. Not to rub it in or anything, just curious..

Falls City Beer · 06-01-2010, 10:20 PM

Don't regret this trade. Of course not.

Not acquiring a starter in the offseason, though. That one hurts.

Degenerate39 · 06-01-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Don't regret this trade. Of course not.

Not acquiring a starter in the offseason, though. That one hurts.

Chapman?

Falls City Beer · 06-01-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Degenerate39

Chapman?

Well, I was thinking a starter for this season.

REDREAD · 06-01-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Well, I was thinking a starter for this season.

It would be nice, but considering that the Reds were commited to Arroyo and Harang unless they wanted to give them away, that only leaves 3 slots.

Bailey was out of options, Ceuto pretty much has to be in the rotation too.
I'm glad there was a slot for Leake.

I guess they could've put Homer in the pen.. but IMO, it's worth letting Homer take the 5th slot to see if he's worth keeping beyond this year.. Part of the pain of a rebuilding year.

I was hoping for an OFer and a bullpen arm this offseason, but I guess Walt ran out of money. Hernandez and Caberra are looking like good moves so far.

Really, investing payflex in Rolen seems pretty smart right now. I can live with Homer if it means being able to get Rolen.

RedsManRick · 06-01-2010, 10:57 PM

I love this quote from Gomes:

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He’s 6-5, 250, and he looks right through you when he wants to. It’s kind of like when you’re 8 years old and you disappoint your dad.

Ghosts of 1990 · 06-01-2010, 10:58 PM

If he stays healthy he could play our Greg Vaughn from 1999 in 2010... or is Greg Vaughn-Johnny Gomes 2010? Votto would be Casey from 1999. BP is Pokey. There's a few parts different from 1999, more pitching I think. Not as good of a bullpen. But Someone has to be Greg Vaughn don't they? Veteran who kind of has a resurgence huge year that wasn't counted on

RedsManRick · 06-01-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JayBruce32

If he stays healthy he could play our Greg Vaughn from 1999 in 2010... or is Greg Vaughn-Johnny Gomes 2010? Votto would be Casey from 1999. BP is Pokey. There's a few parts different from 1999, more pitching I think. Not as good of a bullpen. But Someone has to be Greg Vaughn don't they? Veteran who kind of has a resurgence huge year that wasn't counted on

Definitely Rolen as Vaughn. Bruce as Cameron. I'm going to go with Gomes as Da Meat Hook.

Reds1 · 06-01-2010, 11:16 PM

was this poll put on before or after the 2 HR night.

I want to know who said no and why!

RedEye · 06-01-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JayBruce32

If he stays healthy he could play our Greg Vaughn from 1999 in 2010... or is Greg Vaughn-Johnny Gomes 2010? Votto would be Casey from 1999. BP is Pokey. There's a few parts different from 1999, more pitching I think. Not as good of a bullpen. But Someone has to be Greg Vaughn don't they? Veteran who kind of has a resurgence huge year that wasn't counted on

I can see the Rolen-Vaughn comparison in terms of leadership, but I think Votto and BP are different personalities (and much better overall players) than Casey and Pokey.

Falls City Beer · 06-01-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Reds1

was this poll put on before or after the 2 HR night.

I want to know who said no and why!

Because it's not a move he would have made. It has nothing to do with results.

wolfboy · 06-01-2010, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JayBruce32

If he stays healthy he could play our Greg Vaughn from 1999 in 2010... or is Greg Vaughn-Johnny Gomes 2010? Votto would be Casey from 1999. BP is Pokey. There's a few parts different from 1999, more pitching I think. Not as good of a bullpen. But Someone has to be Greg Vaughn don't they? Veteran who kind of has a resurgence huge year that wasn't counted on

Not to nit-pick, but Vaughn was fresh off of a career high .960 OPS and 50 HR. They were counting on Vaughn, no doubt.

edabbs44 · 06-01-2010, 11:26 PM

I think I voted undecided by mistake...I'm a yes. No brainer.

fearofpopvol1 · 06-01-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Reds1

was this poll put on before or after the 2 HR night.

I want to know who said no and why!

I did and it was an accident. I'm a HUGE fan of the trade.

RedEye · 06-01-2010, 11:41 PM

I voted undecided. Of course I'm happy the trade seems to be working out, but I'm not ready to make any grand pronouncements just yet. I will say, though, that moving Rolen to the cleanup spot (and BP out of it) really made this whole lineup look a lot better.

View Poll Results: Are you glad they made the Rolen trade
Yes	96	89.72%
No	7	6.54%
Undecided/neutral	4	3.74%
Voters: 107. You may not vote on this poll

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Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: Nice Rolen article.. anyone regret the trade now? Don't regret this trade. Of course not. Not acquiring a starter in the offseason, though. That one hurts.

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Ghosts of 1990 The Future is Now Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 3,899	Re: Nice Rolen article.. anyone regret the trade now? If he stays healthy he could play our Greg Vaughn from 1999 in 2010... or is Greg Vaughn-Johnny Gomes 2010? Votto would be Casey from 1999. BP is Pokey. There's a few parts different from 1999, more pitching I think. Not as good of a bullpen. But Someone has to be Greg Vaughn don't they? Veteran who kind of has a resurgence huge year that wasn't counted on __________________ 2009 Attendance Record: 3-5 2010 Attendance Record: 2-9 2011 Attendance Record: 3-4 2012 Attendance Record: 3-4 2013 Attendance Record: 5-1

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Reds1 Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Newburgh, IN Posts: 3,442	Re: Nice Rolen article.. anyone regret the trade now? was this poll put on before or after the 2 HR night. I want to know who said no and why! __________________ And This One Belongs to the REDS!!!

06-01-2010, 11:26 PM	#13
edabbs44 Box of Frogs Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 15,947	Re: Nice Rolen article.. anyone regret the trade now? I think I voted undecided by mistake...I'm a yes. No brainer.

06-01-2010, 11:41 PM	#15
RedEye Ojo Rojo Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Moving to Atlanta in July Posts: 5,038	Re: Nice Rolen article.. anyone regret the trade now? I voted undecided. Of course I'm happy the trade seems to be working out, but I'm not ready to make any grand pronouncements just yet. I will say, though, that moving Rolen to the cleanup spot (and BP out of it) really made this whole lineup look a lot better.

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