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The Operator · 06-10-2010, 01:53 PM

Joe West approves of this umpire.

redsfandan · 06-13-2010, 12:17 PM

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Joyce tops ESPN The Mag ump survey
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5281467

(this has a little more details but you have to subscribe for the FULL details)
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/news/...3fid%3d5276338

The poll was taken after the Galarraga game. In a nutshell most players called Joyce their favorite ump, they don't like replay, they give the umps a good grade overall, and they didn't think Bud should have overturned the call in the Galarraga game.

blumj · 06-13-2010, 12:34 PM

Anyone want to guess who "won" worst umpire?

Big Klu · 06-13-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blumj

Anyone want to guess who "won" worst umpire?

I'm going to guess Joe West, though my choice would be Bob Davidson or Rob Drake.

11larkin11 · 06-13-2010, 02:24 PM

No doubt in my mind that C.B. Bucknor is the worst.

Edit: And I was right.

blumj · 06-13-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Klu

I'm going to guess Joe West, though my choice would be Bob Davidson or Rob Drake.

Close, West came in 2nd, Angel Hernandez 3rd. I think West's actually the least terrible of those 3 at making calls, he's just awful in every other possible way.

OnBaseMachine · 06-16-2010, 09:40 PM

I'd like to know how Hunter Wendelstedt wasn't rated one of the worst umpires in baseball. I've always thought he was a horrible umpire, and tonight's game only confirmed that. His strike three call on Scott Rolen tonight was the worst strike call I have ever seen in the major leagues, and that's not hyperbole. He also missed a call at home plate. He cost the Reds at least two runs tonight.

Nasty_Boy · 06-17-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine

I'd like to know how Hunter Wendelstedt wasn't rated one of the worst umpires in baseball. I've always thought he was a horrible umpire, and tonight's game only confirmed that. His strike three call on Scott Rolen tonight was the worst strike call I have ever seen in the major leagues, and that's not hyperbole. He also missed a call at home plate. He cost the Reds at least two runs tonight.

He has good genes!

He was flat miserable last night... very inconsistent with his strikezone, and he seemed to give in to the pressure of players barking about the zone. If Leake threw a borderline pitch that was called a strike and the batter voiced his displeasure, it seemed that pitch wasn't given again. In other words, pitches in the same spot were not consistently called strikes or balls. He had a rough night for sure.

OnBaseMachine · 06-28-2010, 03:02 PM

The Tigers were once again robbed by an umpire Saturday in Atlanta. Unlike last time, this call actually cost the Tigers the game. With the Tigers losing 4-3 in the top of the 9th inning and the bases loaded with two outs and a 3-2 count, Johnny Damon took a 3-2 pitch that was clearly outside for ball four. Umpire Gary Cederstrom called it strike three. Instead of tying the game up at 4-4, the game was over the Braves won 4-3. Cederstrom has since then admitted it was a bad call and apologized to the Tigers.

Check out the replay of the bad call:

http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/news/a...=.jsp&c_id=det

savafan · 06-28-2010, 05:00 PM

MLB hates the Tigers.

RedsManRick · 06-28-2010, 05:23 PM

The tenor of the conversation regarding umpire effectiveness seems to be changing. The World Cup is certainly contributing as well. I'd just like the message to coalesce a bit more. Umpires are the very best people at what they do. They get the vast majority of the calls right. But now that we have technology which shows their mistakes and is showing that those mistakes have consequences, their best just isn't good enough. They need help. We have the tools to help them. Let's figure out how to equip umpires with the tools they need to their job even better.

TheNext44 · 06-28-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

The tenor of the conversation regarding umpire effectiveness seems to be changing. The World Cup is certainly contributing as well. I'd just like the message to coalesce a bit more. Umpires are the very best people at what they do. They get the vast majority of the calls right. But now that we have technology which shows their mistakes and is showing that those mistakes have consequences, their best just isn't good enough. They need help. We have the tools to help them. Let's figure out how to equip umpires with the tools they need to their job even better.

Completely agree.

Although I am against replay in the World Cup, because who really cares what happens in soccer?

dougdirt · 06-28-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNext44

Completely agree.

Although I am against replay in the World Cup, because who really cares what happens in soccer?

About 2-3 billion people....

TheNext44 · 06-28-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

About 2-3 billion people....

... and about 137 Americans. lol

Sea Ray · 06-29-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

The tenor of the conversation regarding umpire effectiveness seems to be changing. The World Cup is certainly contributing as well. I'd just like the message to coalesce a bit more. Umpires are the very best people at what they do. They get the vast majority of the calls right. But now that we have technology which shows their mistakes and is showing that those mistakes have consequences, their best just isn't good enough. They need help. We have the tools to help them. Let's figure out how to equip umpires with the tools they need to their job even better.

The reason they get the vast majority right is because the vast majority are easy calls. Baseball is the easiest game of all to call. Umpires miss a lot of close calls. As a matter of fact the umps blew two calls in the first three innings of last night's game vs the Phillies. Fortunately both calls were in our favor. Umps blow close calls every night on SportsCenter.

I think the NFL officiating is the best and it's because they are held accountable. If they blow calls they are reprimanded and eventually fired if they screw up too often

06-13-2010, 12:34 PM	#288
blumj Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,332	Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7 Anyone want to guess who "won" worst umpire? __________________ "Reality tells us there are no guarantees. Except that some day Jon Lester will be on that list of 100-game winners." - Peter Gammons

06-13-2010, 02:24 PM	#290
11larkin11 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bellefontaine,OH Posts: 2,287	Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7 No doubt in my mind that C.B. Bucknor is the worst. Edit: And I was right. __________________ Domo Arigato, Here Comes Joey Votto ---TRF "I do what I want to do and say what I want to say." --Bronson Arroyo Last edited by 11larkin11; 06-13-2010 at 02:28 PM.

06-16-2010, 09:40 PM	#292
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,660	Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7 I'd like to know how Hunter Wendelstedt wasn't rated one of the worst umpires in baseball. I've always thought he was a horrible umpire, and tonight's game only confirmed that. His strike three call on Scott Rolen tonight was the worst strike call I have ever seen in the major leagues, and that's not hyperbole. He also missed a call at home plate. He cost the Reds at least two runs tonight. __________________ I miss Adam Dunn.

06-28-2010, 03:02 PM	#294
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,660	Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7 The Tigers were once again robbed by an umpire Saturday in Atlanta. Unlike last time, this call actually cost the Tigers the game. With the Tigers losing 4-3 in the top of the 9th inning and the bases loaded with two outs and a 3-2 count, Johnny Damon took a 3-2 pitch that was clearly outside for ball four. Umpire Gary Cederstrom called it strike three. Instead of tying the game up at 4-4, the game was over the Braves won 4-3. Cederstrom has since then admitted it was a bad call and apologized to the Tigers. Check out the replay of the bad call: http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/news/a...=.jsp&c_id=det __________________ I miss Adam Dunn. Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 06-28-2010 at 03:04 PM.

06-28-2010, 05:00 PM	#295
savafan Maple SERP Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 17,485	Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7 MLB hates the Tigers. __________________ This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos. If you ask me to join your fantasy baseball league and I select Legolas in the first round, don't be angry at me. It's not my fault I've read up on the players and you haven't.

06-28-2010, 05:23 PM	#296
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,919	Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7 The tenor of the conversation regarding umpire effectiveness seems to be changing. The World Cup is certainly contributing as well. I'd just like the message to coalesce a bit more. Umpires are the very best people at what they do. They get the vast majority of the calls right. But now that we have technology which shows their mistakes and is showing that those mistakes have consequences, their best just isn't good enough. They need help. We have the tools to help them. Let's figure out how to equip umpires with the tools they need to their job even better. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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