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Old 06-02-2010, 09:42 PM   #76
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Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7

The NFL's replay challege decisions would be much shorter if they didn't sell advertising time during it.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:42 PM   #77
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The NFL's challenge replay decisions would be much shorter if they didn't sell advertising time.
Pandora's box would be a lot easier to shut had it never been opened.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:44 PM   #78
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You're largely missing the point. Open the game up to conferences, and games get longer and longer. I'm not talking about one incident.
Agreed, eventually electronics will open up more and more, but conferences and
slowing the already 19th century infused pace should be avoided.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:45 PM   #79
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The NFL is certainly not unwatchable, IMO.

They get the calls right a lot more than MLB. They also have a lot better competitive balance and a much more even playing field than MLB. There's a reason why the NFL is slowly usurping MLB as the national pastime.


This call might be the final straw that causes replay to come into the game on more than just home runs. I would applaud that. I'll take a longer game with correct calls over a fast game where the outcome is decided by umpires.
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Don Denkinger to Jim Joyce...

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Don Denkinger to Jim Joyce...

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June 2nd will never be confused with October though.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:48 PM   #82
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June 2nd will never be confused with October though.
Perfectos are rarer than WS.
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Perfectos are rarer than WS.
Tell that to the 24 other guys.
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You're largely missing the point. Open the game up to conferences, and games get longer and longer. I'm not talking about one incident.
I'm not talking about one incident nor do I want conferences. They are theater and a waste of time. If the ump in position to make the call couldn't get it right, I see no reason to involve the rest of the crew and certainly no reason for the umps to leave the field of play.

Let the manager challenge the call (once per game) and have an official in the booth view the replay(s), make the call, and inform the crew chief via radio. It would apply to only to boundary calls, force plays, and tags.

Is it perfect? No. But it would be a quick and painless way to correct gross mistakes with virtually no impact on the pace and length of the game.

If you want to speed up the pace of the game, call the real strikezone and get more swings, more balls in play, more strikes and not so many boring walks and deep counts.
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June 2nd will never be confused with October though.
But there have been a fraction of perfect games compared to World Series games. This will be remembered for a very long time.
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Perfectos are rarer than WS.
Of course, but it will be a game in a 162 game season sooner than later, will it even eclipse Haddix in game lore? I don't think so.
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Accounts out of Detroit have Jim Joyce utterly distraught about his blown call. He might never be the same. Very sad.

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Galarraga on the phone -- some real class there.
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Galarraga on the phone -- some real class there.
For sure...
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The NFL's replay challege decisions would be much shorter if they didn't sell advertising time during it.

Just to be clear, I am not suggesting that you have to include replay in baseball at this point. I just think the umps should over rule each other on the field if they see a blatant missed call. I don't know whether this one would qualify but in general baseball umps are too insecure to allow such a thing.

In the mid 70s I was at a Reds game where an ump did over rule another and it led to a key run scoring for our Reds. The home plate umpire called a Red out at the plate but since he was behind the plate he couldn't see that the catcher did not apply the tag. The 1st base ump immediately signaled safe and after a very short conference, the final call was safe. I wish this would happen more often.
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