Dusty wants what?????? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

BigJohn · 07-03-2010, 07:27 PM

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/ar...ES04/100703004

sabometrics · 07-03-2010, 08:15 PM

He has the team at first place. It doesn't look like they're going away. Why shouldn't he ask for an extension? Honestly I don't consider myself a huge Dusty fan but there's no reason to shake things up by not bringing him back. This team as it is currently built can contend for the next 3 years at least. As long as he's not asking to be the highest paid manager in the majors (and I don't think he is) the Reds FO would be dumb to mess with what's working.

Of course if there is a Mets style fallout in the second half then things may need to be reconsidered but right now you have to stick with Dusty.

muddie · 07-03-2010, 09:24 PM

If I'm Dusty, Im probably looking for something as well. I think it would serve everyone's (Walts's and Dusty's) better interests to focus on the season right now and deal with this later.

Kingspoint · 07-03-2010, 10:41 PM

This is Wayne Krivsky's, Dan O'Brien's and Walt Jockety's team.

Any Manager would have won with this talent this season, and many would have done a better job.

Vottomatic · 07-04-2010, 02:51 AM

I've been one of Dusty's biggest critics, but although I think he makes tactical mistakes at time, going with his gut, I have warmed up to his ability to create great team chemistry and create a good environment for these guys.

We're night and day from the current Cubs team. Probably even the current Cardinals team, in term of team chemistry.

I don't see how they can't re-sign him. I don't think they don't want to. I think it's how much he's being paid.

sabometrics · 07-04-2010, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingspoint

This is Wayne Krivsky's, Dan O'Brien's and Walt Jockety's team.

Any Manager would have won with this talent this season, and many would have done a better job.

I totally agree with this statement, any competent major league manager would have this team playing at a similar clip, and few could have done better. But I don't think you shake up the nest and remove its leader if things keep going at this current place (1st place or close 2nd place finish). If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

We rant and rave about every little decision Dusty makes but at the end of the day he isn't as bad as the rap we give him would let you believe. Unless his contract requests are totally unreasonable then he will be back.

GIDP · 07-04-2010, 08:44 AM

For as much as I hate Dusty the only way I wouldnt resign him is if Barry Larkin came looking for a managerial job.

TheBigLebowski · 07-04-2010, 09:18 AM

No extension until the end of the season, depending on how things play out.

texasdave · 07-04-2010, 10:28 AM

Why bring it up in the middle of the season? I sincerely doubt if any extension is coming until after the season; so why not just lay low until then? I don't see any positives for bringing it up right now. If
Baker feels he has leverage now, then wouldn't he have even more if he guided this team to the playoffs?

xavr1 · 07-04-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingspoint

This is Wayne Krivsky's, Dan O'Brien's and Walt Jockety's team.

Any Manager would have won with this talent this season, and many would have done a better job.

I agree that they are the creators of this team. But if we were below .500, the cries to FIRE DUSTY would be much louder than those to replace Jocketty...

I just think this guy gets so little credit when the team is doing well, and so much blame when they arent.

Kingspoint · 07-04-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xavr1

I just think this guy gets so little credit when the team is doing well, and so much blame when they arent.

That's what being a Manager is all about. Don't screw things up is their #1 goal.

07-03-2010, 08:15 PM	#2
sabometrics Formerly Farsighted Fan Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Edgewood, KY Posts: 605	Re: Dusty wants what?????? He has the team at first place. It doesn't look like they're going away. Why shouldn't he ask for an extension? Honestly I don't consider myself a huge Dusty fan but there's no reason to shake things up by not bringing him back. This team as it is currently built can contend for the next 3 years at least. As long as he's not asking to be the highest paid manager in the majors (and I don't think he is) the Reds FO would be dumb to mess with what's working. Of course if there is a Mets style fallout in the second half then things may need to be reconsidered but right now you have to stick with Dusty. __________________ "He looked like a surfer kid from SoCal," manager Dusty Baker says. "He didn't say much, but you could tell he was cool."

07-03-2010, 09:24 PM	#3
muddie Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Raleigh, N.C. Posts: 1,956	Re: Dusty wants what?????? If I'm Dusty, Im probably looking for something as well. I think it would serve everyone's (Walts's and Dusty's) better interests to focus on the season right now and deal with this later.

07-03-2010, 10:41 PM	#4
Kingspoint Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: All over Posts: 6,939	Re: Dusty wants what?????? This is Wayne Krivsky's, Dan O'Brien's and Walt Jockety's team. Any Manager would have won with this talent this season, and many would have done a better job.

07-04-2010, 02:51 AM	#5
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,729	Re: Dusty wants what?????? I've been one of Dusty's biggest critics, but although I think he makes tactical mistakes at time, going with his gut, I have warmed up to his ability to create great team chemistry and create a good environment for these guys. We're night and day from the current Cubs team. Probably even the current Cardinals team, in term of team chemistry. I don't see how they can't re-sign him. I don't think they don't want to. I think it's how much he's being paid. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

07-04-2010, 08:44 AM	#7
GIDP Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,419	Re: Dusty wants what?????? For as much as I hate Dusty the only way I wouldnt resign him is if Barry Larkin came looking for a managerial job.

07-03-2010, 07:27 PM	#1
BigJohn Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 520	Dusty wants what?????? http://www.chillicothegazette.com/ar...ES04/100703004

07-04-2010, 09:18 AM	#8
TheBigLebowski Winning the Human Race Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Titletown, FL Posts: 3,794	Re: Dusty wants what?????? No extension until the end of the season, depending on how things play out. __________________ The land was farther away from the core and had much less gravity so bigness could develop and dominate -Jose Canseco

07-04-2010, 10:28 AM	#9
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,528	Re: Dusty wants what?????? Why bring it up in the middle of the season? I sincerely doubt if any extension is coming until after the season; so why not just lay low until then? I don't see any positives for bringing it up right now. If Baker feels he has leverage now, then wouldn't he have even more if he guided this team to the playoffs?

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